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Front end developers: stop moving things that I’m about to click on

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Re: Front end developers: stop moving things that I’m about to click on

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The gold standard for the web should be: Craigslist Fast, functional, responsive.

Or McMaster Carr. RS, with it's laggy backend (I assume, as their recent UI shinification didn't change it: it was bad before) could learn a lot from them. Then again, McMaster Carr want you to use an app on mobile and the new RS site works on mobile quite well, with the lag more hidden by the inefficiencies of mobile browsing in general.

Ah, yes. Another classic.

Re: Front end developers: stop moving things that I’m about to click on

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I agree with [this][1] idea: > an autocomplete has one chance to reorder per keystroke. if you got it wrong and you have a better ordering a bit later you must “swallow the sadness” (as per the original author of this wisdom) but never change already displayed items [1]: https://twitter.com/dan_abramov/status/1470751551568363530

Can someone please tell the Windows Start Menu designers? Have completely ruined the experience as it constantly juggles items as its heuristics are seemingly updated. I especially enjoy how Bing results get prioritized over local applications and files.

Users are spending more time in the Start Menu, and visit Bing more often: engagement metrics are up!

Re: Front end developers: stop moving things that I’m about to click on

#84
Steam does this to me. Some games use an Invite button to open a special steam invite menu. This shows all my friends with an invite button next to them. It also insists on dynamically sorting the list based on the person's current status (ex. Starting/stopping a game). So if I hover over the invite button for someone, and someone higher than them in the list moves lower (or vice versa) right before I click, suddenly I'm inviting whoever happened to be adjacent to them in the list. This has only led to an awkward "actually I didn't mean to invite you" conversation once.

Re: Front end developers: stop moving things that I’m about to click on

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Can someone please tell the Windows Start Menu designers? Have completely ruined the experience as it constantly juggles items as its heuristics are seemingly updated. I especially enjoy how Bing results get prioritized over local applications and files.

I cannot figure out how "upd" shows Windows Update but "update" does not.

I realized the other day "stor" brings up Photos as the first result. I'm dumbfounded.

Re: Front end developers: stop moving things that I’m about to click on

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Which is ironic considering Google search results do exactly this with suggestions after the page finishes loading.

I came here to check that someone had mentioned this and I’m not the only one. No clue how the article didn’t mention this because I get burned by it daily

It drives me absolutely nuts to the point where I run a UserScript to disable it.

Re: Front end developers: stop moving things that I’m about to click on

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Way back when I first started learning to build web pages [when HTML4 was just a glint in Tim Berners-Lees eye], it was conidered bad form not to prvide a 'width' and 'height' attribute for an image you were placing on the page. Because if you provided these, the browser would know how much space to leave for the image to occupy after it had downloaded [this was back in the dial-up modem days. So images usually loade…

This - "Cumulative Layout Shift" - is part of Google's Core Web Vitals - https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/9205520?hl=en - so if people are doing that, they're going to be penalised by Google. (Although probably only a bit, given the number of other factors that go into search rankings).

Meuh - google does this with youtube. Load video: video centered. Oh there's a side bar, let's shift the video. Oh the contents needs a smaller dimension, let's shift again. Rather annoying if you're used to watching videos at more than default speed - the control for that shifts 2-3 times.

Re: Front end developers: stop moving things that I’m about to click on

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Can someone please tell the Windows Start Menu designers? Have completely ruined the experience as it constantly juggles items as its heuristics are seemingly updated. I especially enjoy how Bing results get prioritized over local applications and files.

I cannot figure out how "upd" shows Windows Update but "update" does not.

But most of all it doesn’t seem to be deterministic. Very often I get a different behavior on the second attempt.

Search in windows puzzles me. Like I don’t get why it takes so long to search files in explorer, while traversing the same folder structure programmatically takes milliseconds. Hard computer science problem!

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