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Re: How I hang Christmas lights without a ladder

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Magnet attaches to the roof edge flashing which is metal. In the US, there is a substantial probability the flashing is non-magnetic aluminum. So test first.

Most places in the world with metal flashing, metal gutters, or other metal on an exterior will have aluminum. It’s old houses that might have steel. If you have a new house, I guarantee this won’t work. If you have an old house it’s worth checking, though.

Or lead flashing, which is still popular.

Re: How I hang Christmas lights without a ladder

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Most places in the world with metal flashing, metal gutters, or other metal on an exterior will have aluminum. It’s old houses that might have steel. If you have a new house, I guarantee this won’t work. If you have an old house it’s worth checking, though.

I wonder which places still use any metal at all. I haven't seen those in decades. It's all plastic here.

Aluminum is popular because it can be formed into seamless gutters of any length on the job site.

Re: How I hang Christmas lights without a ladder

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Most places in the world with metal flashing, metal gutters, or other metal on an exterior will have aluminum. It’s old houses that might have steel. If you have a new house, I guarantee this won’t work. If you have an old house it’s worth checking, though.

And you can tell from the style that OP's house is old. It could easily predate the great depression

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Re: How I hang Christmas lights without a ladder

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And you can tell from the style that OP's house is old. It could easily predate the great depression

Yeah it looks like an early 20th century 1920s Craftsman style home. (1905-1929) It’s likely made of extremely high quality old growth wood and a rather lovely home to live in if well maintained.

Confirmed, 1908 craftsman :) The roof is 20 years old, maybe that’s when the switch to aluminum started?

Re: How I hang Christmas lights without a ladder

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Why? That looks like a guaranteed way to result in an accident for a pretty minor novelty. If nothing else, using leds that look like candles would be less maintenance with the huge upside that they are incredibly unlikely to be able to start a fire.

Some people in Central Europe still use real candles on the Christmas tree. Of course, you place the candles carefully and don't leave them unattended. (I have no idea how common it is, but I've seen the candles and brackets for sale.)

It is fairly common in Germany. There’s a special size of candles that fits those holders (Christbaumkerzen) and they’re a thing you’ll find everywhere in shops around Christmas time. I’ve never had a tree with LED in my entire life.

You must observe some safety rules, have a bucket of water or an extinguisher at hand (not under the tree) and never leave the candles unattended. And yes, be careful where you place the candles. Can’t have a branch that’s hanging over them.

Re: How I hang Christmas lights without a ladder

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"The carefully split the wire part" in many places has me concerned about electric shock. Is this wiring upto code in the U.S? Also, the comment at the end to use "hooks" beats the whole point of using magnets.

Haha, code. IIRC, Christmas lights have their own exception in the NEC, as the things are wildly unsafe by general NEC standards. For example, nothing stops you from plugging a space heater into the outlet at the end of a string. But relax, it's Christmas! Having said that, OP's lights are built a bit more solid because they look like the 120V parallel-wired style, rather than the series wired tiny lights. I'd be com…

> For example, nothing stops you from plugging a space heater into the outlet at the end of a string. But relax, it's Christmas!

IIRC because they're designed to chain but not for high power applications, Christmas cords are one of the few extensions which routinely include a fuse[0], usually 2.5 to 5 amps.

So you can plug a space heater at the end of the string, not much should happen.

As opposed to using a 15A extension to plug a 20A device into a 20A circuit, which you can absolutely do, and which will burn your house down.

[0] in the US, as opposed to the UK where everything includes a fuse because ring circuit baby

Re: How I hang Christmas lights without a ladder

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"The carefully split the wire part" in many places has me concerned about electric shock. Is this wiring upto code in the U.S? Also, the comment at the end to use "hooks" beats the whole point of using magnets.

Yeah why not use the eyelet and a 1cent cable tie? I really don't get the lack of calling this out. I'm ok with a little fudging with outdoor lights but this here doesn't make sense.

Yeah this was the next best option. But I didn’t want to spend any time on the roof and my ladder doesn’t go high enough so went with magnets. Also I wasn’t crazy about having hooks up there all year round, even though I would be the only person to notice them.

Re: How I hang Christmas lights without a ladder

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Haha, code. IIRC, Christmas lights have their own exception in the NEC, as the things are wildly unsafe by general NEC standards. For example, nothing stops you from plugging a space heater into the outlet at the end of a string. But relax, it's Christmas! Having said that, OP's lights are built a bit more solid because they look like the 120V parallel-wired style, rather than the series wired tiny lights. I'd be com…

wondering if my gutters are steel. Are they rusting? If not, probably not. [1] [1] To coma, stainless steel is not magnetic.

Well, they're painted. And you'd think that would still mean rust where they were scratched, cut, etc. But OP's magnets stuck to a drip edge, which I wouldn't think would be made out of plain steel either. I'm assuming my gutters aren't ferromagnetic, but I could be pleasantly surprised!

Re: How I hang Christmas lights without a ladder

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And you can tell from the style that OP's house is old. It could easily predate the great depression

Yeah it looks like an early 20th century 1920s Craftsman style home. (1905-1929) It’s likely made of extremely high quality old growth wood and a rather lovely home to live in if well maintained.

I love homes from this era! The quality of the materials, at least among the homes still standing, is often excellent. This is anecdotal, but I find that they also tend to have a lot of natural light and stay cooler in the summer.

Re: How I hang Christmas lights without a ladder

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Yeah it looks like an early 20th century 1920s Craftsman style home. (1905-1929) It’s likely made of extremely high quality old growth wood and a rather lovely home to live in if well maintained.

Confirmed, 1908 craftsman :) The roof is 20 years old, maybe that’s when the switch to aluminum started?

It’s probably galvanized steel which people still use. Copper is common where I live as is aluminum but it wouldn’t be weird to see galvanized steel either.

Most likely the roofing people replaced with like material where possible. That’s a fairly common choice on old homes, unless the old material is unsafe, not good, or impossible to source.

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