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Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)

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Re: Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)

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Also so much of management is personal. Upper management doesn’t have visibility into your day to day and needs to trust you’ll deliver by the deadlines they set for their bosses/customers. It’s hard to trust someone you don’t already know.

Something I try to instill in juniors is to make and keep relationships up. Depending on your industry, it’s a very small world. I recall interviewing someone who had just a terrible technical interview, but honestly seemed like a good fit. In the interview it came out he had worked for and with two people who I knew fairly well (and respected and trusted.) Two phone calls later, and based on their experiences with h…

So if two candidates have a terrible technical interview, the person who knows the right people passes to the next round and the other one doesn't? Sounds a lot like nepotism.

Okay, maybe that's not a fair argument on my part because you're actually using the positive feedback that you got from the mutual acquiantances and they could have given negative feedback, but it's still the case that some candidates don't get that opportunity at all.

Re: Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)

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I've been at this for almost 40 years, and it's shocking to me how little urgency there is to hiring over the last 5-10 years. I have a sinecure but still interview from time to time. Compared to (say) 1990, it's intensely time-consuming and unproductive. In principle, I'm likely someone that hiring managers are looking for, and really a pretty good deal. In practice, I'll probably just retire rather than throw my ha…

This. It's been a buyers market in the last decade. If employers were really struggling to hire great engineers, they wouldn't be "playing with their food" so much.

Re: Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)

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Or software engineer in a 3rd world country.

> Or software engineer in a 3rd world country. Actually, software engineers in 2nd and 3rd world countries can afford to save a lot.

Definitely not true.

Re: Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)

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Why does OP ask about people layd off? Are there some big waves of people being fired? I don't live in the US and I didn't read much news recently, so that's why I ask. In my country there aren't many people people in It (if any) layd off.

September: Patreon 150, Twilio 850, Ericsson 400, DocuSign 650 October: Peloton 500, Intel "thousands", Oracle 200, Microsoft 1k, Zillow 300 November: Opendoor 550, Twitter 3700+ (probably 5000+ after the 'sign the hardcore decree or be terminated'), Zendesk 350, Salesforce '100s', Meta 11000, Amazon 10000, Cisco 4000, HP 4000-6000, Stripe 1000+, Lyft 683 Hasn't happened yet but reported to do so soon: Google 10000[1…

Thanks. Were most of those people in technical roles?

I see you mostly mentioned big tech corporations. What is the situation for it roles at non tech corporations and at middle and small tech companies?

Although those numbers you mentioned might sound bad, it is possible that those are the final numbers for lay offs for those companies and once they met the numbers they target and stabilize their financial situations, there won't be any more rounds of lay offs. They might even rehire some people if their economical status will improve.

Re: Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)

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Why does OP ask about people layd off? Are there some big waves of people being fired? I don't live in the US and I didn't read much news recently, so that's why I ask. In my country there aren't many people people in It (if any) layd off.

Yeah, Meta cut 11k people, Amazon has a hiring freeze right now, things are slower at Google hiring, not sure about Microsoft or any of the other big tech companies. Partially driven by interest rates disproportionately affecting tech, partially these companies are just missing earnings a lot and needing to cut headcount. Not sure how private companies are faring, but probably similarly getting pressure to cut headco…

I just got hired in Europe by a private owned US based company. So, at least some companies are doing OK.

Re: Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)

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Let me show you the backdoor: Find a company whose open source projects you are interested in. Dive in and and start fixing things. Then if you really like it after a couple weeks start nudging around for a job. If you do good work they'll just give it to you, no bullshit funnel required. I like this method because you aren't just doing l33t coding exercises to work on some sight unseen codebase that makes you suicid…

Indeed, this l33t code thing leads to bullcrap jobs more often than not.

Re: Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)

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Since this thread is the most relevant - my partner has been struggling for a long time to get going into the field as a Data Analyst/BI analyst doing SQL, Tableau, Excel and (beginner) Python/Pandas. She has been hunting for junior positions or even internships with no luck so far. Here in the EU, either her career gap (due to covid + country change + taking time to upskill herself) gets in the way, or C-level Germa…

It might very well be her basic German holding her back. Any chance of upskilling her quickly through some intensive German lessons over the Christmas break? From memory the German market can be surprisingly insular in its use of German. Not as tough as the French, but close. Also, maybe she can work remotely for a Dutch company? If she speaks good English the Dutch don’t care at all.

Thanks. Her German is A2 already. The problem is that companies here expect professional C1-C2 level, which will take some time.

And yeah, great idea re: jobs for Dutch companies. Will definitely check that out!

Re: Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)

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I was laid off as part of a layoff large enough to trigger the WARN act, so I was put on garden leave for 60 days.. I was fortunate to find a new job and start it exactly as the garden leave expired. It was my first job search in the post-COVID era, aka the era of remote work, and wow was it different. Traditionally, I'd see a handful of jobs that looked interesting each week, and would be one of a handful of applica…

5 weeks! As a hiring manager, I cannot fathom expecting a candidate to wait around that long and still be available.

Re: Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)

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Looking to quit w/o anything lined up. Rejected a few offers before the shit hit the fan. Starting to hate the field and need some time to think.

Wait til right before the summer, not only will the picture economically be more clear, but there's a summer to enjoy. Right now is a slower holiday season where you'd expect a more relaxed work experience, and a bad time to travel or enjoy life. That assumes you're in the northern hemisphere!

but i hate summer and love winter (but NorHemi FTW whooooo000000!!!)
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