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Re: Discord fined €800k

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Post by thatguy0900 »

charcircuit wrote: post #19

The complaints boil down to >Discord not deleting inactive accounts I personally don't want my old accounts to be deleted. Just because I don't sign on to a site that doesn't mean I want everything to be deleted. >Closing the Discord window doesn't quit the entire application and just closes the window This is normal behaviour of programs. In fact most macos programs work this way. Windows still shows Discord in the…

You would hate living in those foreign governments and seeing us companies with their free infinite money trample everything first, then. Imagine competing against a foreign company that genuinely doesn't even care about making a profit

Re: Discord fined €800k

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Post by ldh0011 »

adesanmi wrote: post #15
nerdponx wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the fact that its business model is not based on the exploitation of personal data Is it? I suppose you can take their turning down of Microsoft as a token of good faith, but it's also possible that they just think they can cash out for more in the future. If that's the case, then accumulating a massive user dataset is very much the business model, because the business model is to eventually sell the company for as…

Isn’t Discord’s primary monetisation strategy Nitro?

Not that I trust discord for sensitive communications but I'm personally quite happy to pay $ for my animated emojis and increased upload limit instead of them monetizing my info.

Re: Discord fined €800k

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Post by unityByFreedom »

anfogoat wrote: post #27
charcircuit wrote: post #19

The complaints boil down to >Discord not deleting inactive accounts I personally don't want my old accounts to be deleted. Just because I don't sign on to a site that doesn't mean I want everything to be deleted. >Closing the Discord window doesn't quit the entire application and just closes the window This is normal behaviour of programs. In fact most macos programs work this way. Windows still shows Discord in the…

> This is normal behaviour of programs. In fact most macos programs work this way. Windows still shows Discord in the bottom right no people can access it if they need it even if they don't want a window for it. Excuse me, it's the EU who determines what is normal and what is not. Not some decades old conventions.

Hahaha. Yes some stodgy bureaucrats surely know more than designers of OS and software. Please. There's definitely a gap to bridge but let's not pretend one side knows everything.

Re: Discord fined €800k

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Post by Wobble4978 »

mrits wrote: post #12
viraptor wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't quite hold for gdpr fines. It's a fine + you're going to comply, or we'll start stacking more fines. By definition this is a fine on top of the cost of compliance.

There are a lot of different ways to measure this. You could look at this as renting time for non-compliance. What they were able to work on by kicking this can down the road I don't know.

"You could look at this as renting time for non-compliance. "

How is this "time" and not "infringements" from your view?

Re: Discord fined €800k

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

charcircuit wrote: post #19

The complaints boil down to >Discord not deleting inactive accounts I personally don't want my old accounts to be deleted. Just because I don't sign on to a site that doesn't mean I want everything to be deleted. >Closing the Discord window doesn't quit the entire application and just closes the window This is normal behaviour of programs. In fact most macos programs work this way. Windows still shows Discord in the…

> This is normal behaviour of programs. In fact most macos programs work this way. Windows still shows Discord in the bottom right no people can access it if they need it even if they don't want a window for it.

On my computer it goes to a little arrow menu in the bottom left where you can't see it unless you click in. And when I first found out this behavior I ended up accidentally treating a lobby to some very bad singing.

I'm very skeptical of GDPR regulation, including multiple of the other things CNIL listed here. (If your "data protection impact assessment" concludes that there's nothing high-risk, doesn't that suggest it wasn't in the GDPR's bucket of "likely to result in a high risk"?) But this point seems pretty reasonable.

Re: Discord fined €800k

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Post by dbg31415 »

So the problem with Discord is that following GDPR would just make for a really crappy user experience.

Let's say you're a community moderator, and you type out the rules for the community. Well... now, unless someone wants to re-do everything you did, those rules will forever say, "YourName said..." and if someone leaves a server, and asks for their content to be removed... it would make for a big mess for users and moderators, "See the pinned posts!" "Uh, what pinned posts?"

Also, quotes and replies of your messages... do those have to be removed? Someone responds to your message, and quotes, "> YourName said..." before their response. And along the same logic... there are a lot of bots that automatically track all the updates to messages, so that people can't say something nasty, and edit it and say, "No, I didn't say anything nasty!" The bots see all... and normally they record it in a public channel for the admins, where the bot just says, "YourName edited their post from X, to Y!" Do all those have to be removed?

Not to mention emoji, and sponsorship, and the list of "joined the server" / "YourName kicked SomePunk because..." where the admin leaves a note outlining why they booted someone. Would all that have to be expunged upon request?

Dunno man, I'm all for GDPR, but I think Discord is sort of like Hacker News... like public forums shouldn't have to remove content someone put up. Just find a way to change ownership or change YourName to [DeletedUser123] would be fine... still sucks from a UX perspective I think, and all the messages quoting you, and bots recording your changes... those are still there. Can't really un-pee in the pool. But you know that using Discord.

Edit... I confused GDPR with CCPA for "request to export" / "request to delete" -- sorry. Meh, I'll leave this up because I'm an idiot, and I still think Discord / "public" places should be except from requests to delete data.

Re: Discord fined €800k

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Post by Wobble4978 »

charcircuit wrote: post #19

The complaints boil down to >Discord not deleting inactive accounts I personally don't want my old accounts to be deleted. Just because I don't sign on to a site that doesn't mean I want everything to be deleted. >Closing the Discord window doesn't quit the entire application and just closes the window This is normal behaviour of programs. In fact most macos programs work this way. Windows still shows Discord in the…

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Re: Discord fined €800k

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Post by nerdponx »

ldh0011 wrote: post #32
adesanmi wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t Discord’s primary monetisation strategy Nitro?

Not that I trust discord for sensitive communications but I'm personally quite happy to pay $ for my animated emojis and increased upload limit instead of them monetizing my info.

My problem is that paying for the emojis doesn't actually stop them from monetizing your info.
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