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Habits of Highly Overrated People (2013)

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Re: Habits of Highly Overrated People (2013)

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Post by GoOnThenDoTell »

paulcole wrote: post #28
q-big wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First: there is of course an incentive not to admit this. Second: I do believe that many people on HN really deeply care about technology/hacking topics and have detest for office politics. On the other hand, the people that the article discuss are good at office politics/marketing themselves and often don't have such a deep knowledge about programming. Thus, I would indeed assume that the typical HN reader/writer le…

The average HN reader is highly overrated for other reasons. > have detest for office politics The problem is that many people on HN believe any interaction with someone with an MBA, marketing background, manager, etc. is “office politics.”

Any interaction with another human at work is politics

Re: Habits of Highly Overrated People (2013)

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Post by neilv »

Some of the symptoms the article gave are painful to read, because that can also be what it looks like when a person is blocked outside of their control (e.g., another team not delivering, or up the chain has a problem), and trying to fix it.

Before trying to assign individual blame to a part, try to debug the actual system problems in team and organization.

Re: Habits of Highly Overrated People (2013)

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Post by pojzon »

When I spot ppl like that driving the company towards bottom I know its time to jump the ship.

Over 10 years of work, jumped few times like that.

Each and every time the company went to bin.

Following those kind of ppl does not work, having too many of the also.

But its very hard to push them out once they made “connections” and “politics” going.

Re: Habits of Highly Overrated People (2013)

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Post by mberning »

Man the slackware clock thing is so common. “Is that in confluence?” burns me up regularly. Things like how to delete a file in git. Or revert a file. As the number of tools required to build software continues to grow there are more and more opportunities for people to play dumb and act dopey.

Re: Habits of Highly Overrated People (2013)

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Post by q-big »

paulcole wrote: post #28
q-big wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First: there is of course an incentive not to admit this. Second: I do believe that many people on HN really deeply care about technology/hacking topics and have detest for office politics. On the other hand, the people that the article discuss are good at office politics/marketing themselves and often don't have such a deep knowledge about programming. Thus, I would indeed assume that the typical HN reader/writer le…

The average HN reader is highly overrated for other reasons. > have detest for office politics The problem is that many people on HN believe any interaction with someone with an MBA, marketing background, manager, etc. is “office politics.”

> The average HN reader is highly overrated for other reasons.

Possibly ... ;-)

Re: Habits of Highly Overrated People (2013)

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Post by mberning »

genghisjahn wrote: post #8

These articles come out with some regularity, and yet no one ever says, "Yep! That's totally me! I'm a non contributing zero but I've made a living at making others think I add to the team!" Everyone knows people like this, but no one is one.

What is the likelihood that one of these people is on such a site as this? They are avoiding work after all. Not trying to get better at it.

Re: Habits of Highly Overrated People (2013)

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Post by NikolaNovak »

mberning wrote: post #38
genghisjahn wrote: post #8

These articles come out with some regularity, and yet no one ever says, "Yep! That's totally me! I'm a non contributing zero but I've made a living at making others think I add to the team!" Everyone knows people like this, but no one is one.

What is the likelihood that one of these people is on such a site as this? They are avoiding work after all. Not trying to get better at it.

Hacker News is BRILLIANT for avoiding work :-)
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