What it is called when the US sells weapons to European countries that are connected to the US network, share data and can only be activated by US officials? Should their customers retaliate? "we can do it, you can't" https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/23052/foreign-f-35-use...
I think some information is lost in the comparison between fighter aircraft and home security cameras.
U.S. bans equipment from Huawei and ZTE, citing national security concerns
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#152What it is called when the US sells weapons to European countries that are connected to the US network, share data and can only be activated by US officials? Should their customers retaliate? "we can do it, you can't" https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/23052/foreign-f-35-use...
It’s called the US protecting its own interests. Yes, the US prioritizes itself over other countries, as every country does.
>Yes, the US prioritizes itself over other countries, as every country does.
I agree. Most western nations [especially the EU and UK] prioritise the US over other countries.Oh. That wasn't what you meant by 'as every country does'?
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Not using it government/critical telecom makes sense but other but a general rule seems like a big overreach.
The US campaign against Huawei and ZTE caused the 5G rollout in the west, including here in Europe, to be considerably delayed and much more expensive.
Yes, imported Russian nat gas is way cheaper. Until it isn't.
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Many examples, e.g. https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/31/16072786/amazon-blu-suspe... . “In November 2016, security firm Kryptowire detected pre-loaded remote surveillance software on BLU phones sold online through Amazon and Best Buy. In August 2017, Amazon pulled BLU Products from its website over security vulnerabilities that resulted in BLU consumer user data being covertly sent to China.”
Imagine if other countries applied the same policy to US-based companies, because some US companies covertly sent data to the US.
There is already some GDPR related pushback but it is not nearly enough.
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#155"National security" has been increasingly been used over the last 5 years as a justification for measures that are actually much more broadly geopolitical in nature. A private individual using a Huawei phone or router isn't a national security threat to the US. However, in a broader sense, the US government sees the technological development of China as a threat to American strategic dominance, and has been taking ev…
Living in a snivelling vassal state is so embarrassing. The more so when Brexit voting fuckwitts bleat about 'taking back control'.
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Ericsson and Nokia sell their 5G technology in China. Actually funny enough they were siding China too on this in Europe because a ban of Chinese tech in Europe could've resulted in a ban of European tech in China. and for anyone that doesn't live under a rock, they know pretty well that china is far a bigger market than Europe
Ericsson essentially lost its 2nd largest market because of Sweden's decision to ban Huawei. From [0]: > Swedish telecommunication equipment maker Ericsson plans to restructure its operations in China, its second-largest market, after its sales in the country plunged for a second consecutive quarter in the wake of its home government's move to exclude Huawei Technologies and ZTE from 5G mobile networks. > Ericsson re…
I don’t know what US people really feel about all these Chinese companies, but I for once don’t trust their software/hardware. This doesn’t mean that equipment from Ericsson or Nokia Siemens don’t have “backdoors”, but at least they’re clearly communicated with other governments. That’s the good thing if your company is neutral and sells to everyone. Chinese want to sell to everyone but they want the “backdoors” only for themselves ;-)
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This is just appalling protectionism; is it really something that we tech people should cheer on?
You're falling into the trap they've laid for us. They screw us with protectionism, then when we respond, they cheekily say, "You're violating your values! You can't do that!" Most Ukrainians don't want to kill Russians, but they were attacked. "Fight back" and "surrender" are the only two options.
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This is just appalling protectionism; is it really something that we tech people should cheer on?
You're falling into the trap they've laid for us. They screw us with protectionism, then when we respond, they cheekily say, "You're violating your values! You can't do that!" Most Ukrainians don't want to kill Russians, but they were attacked. "Fight back" and "surrender" are the only two options.
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The US campaign against Huawei and ZTE caused the 5G rollout in the west, including here in Europe, to be considerably delayed and much more expensive.
How expensive do you think it would be allowing an entity infamous for intellectual property theft, to have unfettered access to the teleco networks of the countries that they themselves say are their greatest enemies? Yes, imported Russian nat gas is way cheaper. Until it isn't.