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The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Sorry but that's delusional - riding in the rain, and especially when it's snowy/icy - is order of magnitude more dangerous - traction/breaking/reduced visibility.

Have you tried, or are you just speculating about me being delusional? As I said in my comment, I actually do this, and surprised myself with how practical it is in all but the absolute worse weather (there are about 7 days per year where my bike won’t work, but generally that means that it is dangerous driving conditions as well). I live in rural Canada. I’m no stranger to riding in snow, rain and darkness. I could…

Not the person you're responding to, but I agree with that argument. I have commuted by bike daily in a relatively dry climate for years. I had no problem with rain in terms of wetting my clothes, as you said the rain gear is easy to put on and off. But even though I think of myself as a fairly careful rider, I had a couple falls, one due to slipping on leaves on a wet bike path that left me with a concussion, the other due to a hobo riding a narrow bike path the wrong way, causing me to arrive a work with bloody knuckles. I haven't fallen since and I continue to ride, but I do feel I'm much less at risk of injury in an enclosed car.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Quite honestly, an ebike solves a lot of this. I thought I would never use it in the winter, but a cheap rain suit is perfect to keep me warm and dry, and takes about 20 seconds to put on or take off. I don’t have to worry about sweat since if I get too hot I can just use the throttle or dial up the electric assist. I thought I would never use the thing in winter, but I actually find it absurdly practical.

Sorry but that's delusional - riding in the rain, and especially when it's snowy/icy - is order of magnitude more dangerous - traction/breaking/reduced visibility.

> riding in the rain, and especially when it's snowy/icy - is order of magnitude more dangerous - traction/breaking/reduced visibility.

Yes, it's more dangerous. No one said it's not. No one even mentioned safety until you brought it up yourself.

If you want to bring up safety: great! Go for it! But no need to start calling people "delusional" right from the bat.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Its ugly! A key to Tesla's success is that its cars look like cars, not abominations. Many electric car makers seem to hate cars.

Teslas look bland, if not horrid, for how much they cost, at least compared to the sedans we're used to in Europe.

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Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Being from Europe. Where they have those tiny So now you're on a road with a 90kph speed limit and this guy pulls in front of you. Maxing out at 45.

> and this guy pulls in front of you

That sounds like your problem, not theirs?

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Have you tried, or are you just speculating about me being delusional? As I said in my comment, I actually do this, and surprised myself with how practical it is in all but the absolute worse weather (there are about 7 days per year where my bike won’t work, but generally that means that it is dangerous driving conditions as well). I live in rural Canada. I’m no stranger to riding in snow, rain and darkness. I could…

I used to own a motorcycle and I commute with a bycicle in ~mediteranian climate. The only two accidents I've ever had on a motorcycle were low speed manuvers in heavy rain when I got caught by a shower. On a bike just riding on a slippery road is terrible and wading through umbrellas, getting splashed by cars in traffic, rain in the eyes. Riding on two wheels makes you extremely exposed - ebikes are just shit motorc…

Unfortunately, there are some places where the whole city is delusional, like in Finland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhx-26GfCBU

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Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Its ugly! A key to Tesla's success is that its cars look like cars, not abominations. Many electric car makers seem to hate cars.

Many different auto companies have produced numerous different cars over a very long period of time. Which one is the “official” template of what a car should look like?

It is necessary not to look ridiculous.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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> You can own multiple pair of shoes, and even have one stay at the office, same for pants. This hints at another counterpoint: it's not just yourself you have to protect from elements, but also whatever it is you want to transport with you. Like those extra shoes. Or electronics. Or groceries. Etc. Waterproof bags probably exist, but I can't say I've seen them available, or used, by anyone at all.

I must live a very peculiar life then. All I need is a backpack and a rain coat, it's been 7 years or so and I haven't experienced anything life changing so far I get on my bike, go to the store, office, friends, &c. rain, snow, sun, wind, it won't kill you really

Let me guess

No kids?

What you described was my bike centric life as well until it wasn't.

When you have to do school drop-off a couple miles away for middle schoolers, or do that weekly store run for a family, it gets a bit trickier on the bike.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Except when you go to work and have to spend the day with your pants and shoes drenched. And if you have glasses, you quickly can't see anything.

I go to work by e-bike. I have a pair of rain pants that I pull over my regular pants, and a rainproof jacket. I wear glasses, but my helmet has a visor. Would a car keep me drier? Yes, absolutely, but I’d still need to walk from parking lot to office, and I’d be stuck with all the other folks in traffic.

What do you do about shoes in rain?

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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That 'raining, snowing, too hot, too cold' argument keeps coming up. You know, we humans are perfectly capable of dressing up appropriately and just enjoying the fresh air, whether it's warm or cold. In fact, it makes you feel alive! Get the nice warm gloves and raincoat out for winter, or the super light and loose shirt with sunglasses for summer.

Except when you go to work and have to spend the day with your pants and shoes drenched. And if you have glasses, you quickly can't see anything.

I've cycled and driven mopeds in some pretty serious rains (including tropical monsoon downpours), and the right preparation makes all the difference. Being "stuck" on a two-wheeler during unexpected rainfall is definitely a big bummer, but a good raincoat or poncho makes all the difference, and you tend to come out reasonable dry at the end of it.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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A classic Top Gear feature on the even more snug Peel P50: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dJfSS0ZXYdo

And who can forget the P45 that they created: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aFdBcYN3sNw which is even smaller, though only one of them is in existence afaik.

It's actually at Beaulieu Motor Museum, where I happened to visit last week! They have a whole permanent Top Gear section. Would recommend a visit if you're ever in this part of the world https://www.beaulieu.co.uk/attractions/national-motor-museum...

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