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The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by ginko »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #128
ginko wrote: post #108

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>Bikes are also more dangerous than small slow 4 wheeled vehicles. Cars are WAY more dangerous than bicycles.

> Cars are WAY more dangerous than bicycles wrong. cars are more dangerous on average (the concept of average should be banned from any statistical analysis) because they travel many many many more kilometers than the average bike and mostly for very long distances at high speed. But if you notice, I wrote "than slow 4 wheeled cars". Ami is much safer than a bike, especially for the occupants. Example: there are 3.75…

Try getting hit by either a >400kg Ami or a 20kg bike each going 20km/h and let me know the results.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by peoplefromibiza »

ginko wrote: post #131
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Cars are WAY more dangerous than bicycles wrong. cars are more dangerous on average (the concept of average should be banned from any statistical analysis) because they travel many many many more kilometers than the average bike and mostly for very long distances at high speed. But if you notice, I wrote "than slow 4 wheeled cars". Ami is much safer than a bike, especially for the occupants. Example: there are 3.75…

Try getting hit by either a >400kg Ami or a 20kg bike each going 20km/h and let me know the results.

If you wanna have a conversation, please try at least to understand a few simple concepts.

A bullet weights 50 grams.

Would you prefer to be hit by a bike or a bullet?

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by DoesntMatter22 »

tialaramex wrote: post #123
unglaublich wrote: post #96

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That 'raining, snowing, too hot, too cold' argument keeps coming up. You know, we humans are perfectly capable of dressing up appropriately and just enjoying the fresh air, whether it's warm or cold. In fact, it makes you feel alive! Get the nice warm gloves and raincoat out for winter, or the super light and loose shirt with sunglasses for summer.

You just can't fix the extreme edges this way. Above about 300K that "super light and loose shirt" is still drenched with sweat unless your "assist" is doing all the work or there's a pretty stiff wind. Below about 250K the "nice warm clothing" needed to make this comfortable would become too bulky to make ordinary movement practical, so we skimp. We tell ourselves nope, we're just not going outside except to do stuf…

What is 300k? Are you using kelvin here?

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by johnisgood »

wreath wrote: post #127
thiht wrote: post #115

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Except when you go to work and have to spend the day with your pants and shoes drenched. And if you have glasses, you quickly can't see anything.

Or worse, sweaty and smelly. Be friendly to your colleagues

Wear appropriate clothes. Do not wear Converse sneakers when it is raining outside (or alternatively, have a pair of shoes at the workplace that you switch to once you are in, or whatever). Take a shower before work. Apply a deodorant, or an antiperspirant (the latter has different instructions, you apply them after shower, before sleep, and wash it off in the morning). It is a solved "issue", seriously. The shoes I wear when it is rainy or snowy outside do not get drenched at all, and I go to work by bus and foot. Same goes to my jacket. Actually, same goes to my whole body, as I use an umbrella on top of all this, and I hide wherever I can at the bus stop while waiting, or just use the umbrella if I cannot.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by lm28469 »

thiht wrote: post #115
unglaublich wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That 'raining, snowing, too hot, too cold' argument keeps coming up. You know, we humans are perfectly capable of dressing up appropriately and just enjoying the fresh air, whether it's warm or cold. In fact, it makes you feel alive! Get the nice warm gloves and raincoat out for winter, or the super light and loose shirt with sunglasses for summer.

Except when you go to work and have to spend the day with your pants and shoes drenched. And if you have glasses, you quickly can't see anything.

You can own multiple pair of shoes, and even have one stay at the office, same for pants. I do it and I don't feel like I'm having a miserable existence

But fuck it, let's buy a car and fuck the planet, that's much more convenient, god forbid we sweat or touch the rain, oh the horror !

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by ginko »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #132
ginko wrote: post #131

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Try getting hit by either a >400kg Ami or a 20kg bike each going 20km/h and let me know the results.

If you wanna have a conversation, please try at least to understand a few simple concepts. A bullet weights 50 grams. Would you prefer to be hit by a bike or a bullet?

A bullet has more kinetic energy because it's significantly faster than a bike. But a bike is actually slower than a car, even an Ami so I don't understand what argument you're trying to make here. Cars kill people every. single. day.

All the traffic rules had to be created just because how dangerous and deadly cars are.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by lm28469 »

lzooz wrote: post #109
unglaublich wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That 'raining, snowing, too hot, too cold' argument keeps coming up. You know, we humans are perfectly capable of dressing up appropriately and just enjoying the fresh air, whether it's warm or cold. In fact, it makes you feel alive! Get the nice warm gloves and raincoat out for winter, or the super light and loose shirt with sunglasses for summer.

Good luck convincing people to give up their cars and go to work soaked in a raincoat every day.

Yep, reason #1 we're fucked, people became absolute cry babies about anythign resembling physical effort or inconvenience. They'd burn the planet twice over rather than move their asses anywhere else other than in a 3 tonne climatized metal cage

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by zimpenfish »

lm28469 wrote: post #98
up2isomorphism wrote: post #78

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It seems people are never thinking what happens if he is getting old. Good luck when you can still ride a bike when you are 70s and in the snow.

If people exercised instead of living in their cars/offices and walking 5 minutes per day they'd be able to do basic human things at 70 instead of having their body give up at 40

> If people exercised instead of living in their cars/offices and walking 5 minutes per day

I did that. Running, cycling, walking, etc. Substantially more walking than 5 minutes a day, too...

> instead of having their body give up at 40

...and my right knee became unfixable trash somewhere between 45 and 50 (a variety of ailments, possibly exacerbated by a ~2001 injury.)

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by Xylakant »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #100
abyssin wrote: post #47

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They’ve been running that experiment with great success in the Netherlands since the 1970s. It’s great to see, and even better to experience in your everyday life. I love feeling connected to my environment.

The Netherlands is not a regular country and cannot be used as a template for any other country in the World, except maybe some flat urban area, like Copenhagen, or the Vatican (which has a few hills more than the Netherlands BTW) p.s. Dutch did not like to hear this, but somebody had to say it.

I don’t think that Berlin has substantially more mountains in the city than Amsterdam. I live on one of the molehills that pretend to be a mountain and I have 22m of height difference to the river. It’s noticeable but hardly insurmountable.
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