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U.S. bans equipment from Huawei and ZTE, citing national security concerns

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Re: U.S. bans equipment from Huawei and ZTE, citing national security concerns

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What it is called when the US sells weapons to European countries that are connected to the US network, share data and can only be activated by US officials? Should their customers retaliate? "we can do it, you can't" https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/23052/foreign-f-35-use...

I think some information is lost in the comparison between fighter aircraft and home security cameras.

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What it is called when the US sells weapons to European countries that are connected to the US network, share data and can only be activated by US officials? Should their customers retaliate? "we can do it, you can't" https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/23052/foreign-f-35-use...

It’s called the US protecting its own interests. Yes, the US prioritizes itself over other countries, as every country does.

That doesn't make it right.

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The US can decide who its allies are, other countries can do the same for themselves. What are you even objecting to here?

There are a lot of people on HN arguing against sanctioning Russia for invading a sovereign state, they believe that the west should just turn a blind eye to it. It's quite interesting, it's pretty much the only place on the internet I encounter such posts.

That's a common stance in right-leaning circles, unfortunately.

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Exactly, why would you sell weapons to even an ally (who at some point could broker those weapons / IP to a near-pear adversary or grey area state) anywhere near as capable as your own? Obviously, when it comes to terrorist groups and broke eastern european nations the U.S. has made mistakes with this line of reasoning. Re: captured weapons in ukraine ending up on the black market...

I don't believe there has been any confirmation of weapons sent to Ukraine ending up on the black market or has there?

I think there are so many weapons that it must occur (either by Russian capture or traitorous Ukrainians) but that should not deter the US and allies from sending as much as needed for Ukraine to expel their invaders.

Re: U.S. bans equipment from Huawei and ZTE, citing national security concerns

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"National security" has been increasingly been used over the last 5 years as a justification for measures that are actually much more broadly geopolitical in nature. A private individual using a Huawei phone or router isn't a national security threat to the US. However, in a broader sense, the US government sees the technological development of China as a threat to American strategic dominance, and has been taking ev…

Consumer devices with sufficient adoption are most definitely a national security threat.

Let’s for a moment imagine Iran (instead of china) has a significant amount of the low end consumer cameras sold in the US. Imagine they push propaganda, or build in a back door to control them.

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Whe you consider China's restrictions against US companies, these things are a drop in a bucket.

A lot gets buried in the privacy discussions but the unfair trade practices are also a problem.

For example Western app makers don't have access to Chinese consumers the same way Chinese app makers have access to Western consumers.

Re: U.S. bans equipment from Huawei and ZTE, citing national security concerns

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Every article I’ve ever read that cites “national security concerns” never, ever explicitly goes into the exact, computational mechanism in which it is a security concern. It’s always something like “Chinese company under Chinese government, therefore bad”. Never anything concrete or substantive from a software engineer POV, such as what exactly is phoned-home, or what actual subversions are happening currently, only hypotheticals.

Re: U.S. bans equipment from Huawei and ZTE, citing national security concerns

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Every article I’ve ever read that cites “national security concerns” never, ever explicitly goes into the exact, computational mechanism in which it is a security concern. It’s always something like “Chinese company under Chinese government, therefore bad”. Never anything concrete or substantive from a software engineer POV, such as what exactly is phoned-home, or what actual subversions are happening currently, only…

Not quite. Here you can read more about the underlying reasons: https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:rm226yb7473/Huawei-ZT...
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