Choosing Nim out of a crowded market for systems programming languages

Post by sph » Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 8:58 AM UTC

dilawar wrote: post #112

pitaj wrote: post #94

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> looking very much into Nim to see if I can replace Rust because of the high cognitive load to keep all of the Rust stuff in my head, as I don't really need safety. Personally I find that Rust has less cognitive load, because so much of what you'd generally worry about in other languages is covered by language features in Rust: static typing, algebraic data types, etc

I agree but I tool functional programming course in college. It was hard! Someone who may not have invested enough in leaning basics of FP, I can totally see why Rust feels like a hard language. During the prototyping phase, I also avoid lifetimes and other esoteric features and often use unhealthy amount of Arc and Rc. Nothing beats Cargo and company and loves compiler messages. Have used NIM as python replacement,…

Post by aew4ytasghe5 » Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 9:03 AM UTC

francasso wrote: post #128

insanitybit wrote: post #125

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If you were clever enough to write it safely in C I can guarantee you'd be clever enough to write it in Rust.

Oh boy, that is so not true. Anything where the boundaries of the lifetimes are easily determined at runtime but unknown at compile time is extremely easy to model safely in C, and a nightmare in Rust. At least if you want the same level of performance and a similar modeling of the data

Post by sph » Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 9:20 AM UTC

moldavi wrote: post #198

pie_flavor wrote: post #192

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The easy pattern of graph structures is handled by the easy implementation of adjacency lists, which is how you should have been implementing it in other languages too. The specific incompatibility is with the naïve hand-implementations of these structures; the specific thing Rust does not optimize for is toy code.

You know nothing of what I'm programming. You don't know when, whether, or how my program accesses or deletes data. You don't know what domain I'm in, whether I'm on a team, or what our priorities must be. And yet, you proclaim that your approach is how I should always do it in any language, in any situation. It strikes me as particularly convenient, seeing as that's the only approach that the borrow checker can reas…

Post by anyfactor » Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 9:59 AM UTC

rich_sasha wrote: post #6

I'm choosing between learning Nim or Rust. Nim frankly looks like the nicer of the two, but also less marketable and with smaller community. Suck to say but it's true.

Post by MrBuddyCasino » Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 10:02 AM UTC