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Stripe is wrongly suspending accounts

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context: We are a SaaS for martial arts academies located in Europe. We are using Stripe for our payment integrations and all our academies have their own account connected to our platform using Stripe Connect (standard), since the last couple of days 2 accounts have been suspended due to "suspicious activity".

Stripe has implemented a new fraud detection system that is clearly flawed here. These customers are small gyms in local areas with accounts active for the last 11 months without no issues whatsoever, now all of a sudden they were both suspended (and payout blocked) due to suspicious activity. The suspicious activity is disputed payments, which for SEPA DD (the main payment method used) can simply be that the customer has no money in the bank account.

The Stripe response so far has been vague, to say the least. Has this happened to you?

I believe Stripe is a very good product and we have had no issue with them until now, but this situation is deteriorating trust very fast. Do they literally have the power of taking your funds hostage over a "suspicious" fraudulent activity that is clearly due to a bug in their automatic detection system?

Please let me know if you know someone that can help us here

Re: Stripe is wrongly suspending accounts

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SEPA payments also support chargebacks. Gyms are notorious for making it easy to sign up and hard to cancel, so the other explanation is that people are upset with some of your gyms and disputing the subscription renewals.

Stripe customer support is beyond useless, so I totally get your frustration, but I would encourage you to get to the bottom of this and verify that that your "insufficient funds" theory is correct by calling the customers with the failed payments.

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'Thank you very much Stripe, for suspending and killing my business accounts for little to no reason.'. [1] [2] [3] [4]

Thank you.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28085706

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33299222

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23881643

[4] https://twitter.com/zhovner/status/1384568453844066305

Re: Stripe is wrongly suspending accounts

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post #3

If only there were a system to transfer money between two people that didn't require a trusted third party...

ZK rollup with validity proofs and trustless escape hatches should really be the dominant mode of bridging and storing assets in the future.[1]

To the OP: sorry to hear what you are going through.

[1] See https://vitalik.ca/general/2021/01/05/rollup.html and https://vitalik.ca/general/2022/11/19/proof_of_solvency.html

Re: Stripe is wrongly suspending accounts

#9
I'm sorry you're going through this. I'm sure someone from Stripe will pop-in here and help out. If they do not, you have other payment providers:

- Paddle

- Mollie

- Paypal

Many upstart small businesses will face false fraud inquiries, but you have to roll with the punches and move to a new processor if Stripe is not responsive.

Re: Stripe is wrongly suspending accounts

#10
At this point, I don’t know how any founder on HN doesn’t make their business…

1) Multi-cloud

and…

2) Multi-payment processor

These stories are horrifying. These cloud and payment processors simply do not care. They print money and provide no human support. Any venture that I make in the future will be cloud-agnostic containers on several cloud providers with at least two payment processors handling an even share of the load. Double work be damned. Stripe and GCP simply do not care.

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