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Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?
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Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?
#32Oof, that sucks and I feel for you. That said... > setting up in a new region would be complicated for us. Sounds to me like you've got a few weeks to get this working. Deprioritize all other work, get everyone working on this little DevOps/Infra project. You should've been multi-region from the outset, if not multi-cloud. When using the public cloud, we do tend to take it all for granted and don't even think about t…
Thanks a lot! You are totally right, it is for sure something we will find a solution for. But honestly, do I not want to. As a startup, you have very few resources and deliberately place some exact bets. Deprioritizing everything to work on something for a long time that was not prioritized, just to then end up again where you were before (a working cloud solution) is the last thing any startup should be forced to d…
I hear you. It's not a fun position to be in. And sometimes you're correct to take calculated risks and maybe the expected value was positive here, despite what ended up happening.
Without knowing the details about your services and infrastructure, it's hard for me to know what's involved in going multi-region now. Are you sure it's such a a gargantuan effort? I would've thought one person working full-time on this for a week or two would be enough, but again I don't know the details of your setup.
One option would be to pay a consultant who is an expert in Azure/cloud stuff to come in and help. May not be cheap, but could be a lot better and quicker for you and better for the business, especially if none of you are really big experts in Azure.
I've been here before (I think)...had to wear many hats and scramble to make sales, build the tech, act as de facto DevOps person even without a lot of experience doing it, etc. That is the way, but stuff happens.
Happy to chat about specifics if you want to bounce ideas off of me or go through your particular situation. Can't promise I'll have concrete advice, but happy to talk it through.
Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?
#33> We never thought our startup would be threatened by the unreliability of a company like Microsoft, or that they wouldn’t proactively inform us about this. Yikes, this is totally the first thing you need to come to expect when working with MSFT.
Probably a good learning for the future ;-)
Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?
#34I think there is some general rule in business that you should not depend on a provider that if they lost your business it would be less then one percent of their revenue. Or be ready when they drop the guillotine.
Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?
#35Maybe they are doing this to push people into regions with lower energy costs. Of course Northern Virginia or Canada is going to give you much higher ping times.
Interesting thought. It would be crazy if turning down business was preferable to just raising prices to reflect increased energy costs. I'm not a cloud expert, but maybe they don't have the infra to price differently in some regions?
Azure definitely has the ability to charge differently per region. They do it pretty frequently.
Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?
#36Yes, my company found this out trying to add both a database and a serverless app to our existing infrastructure in Germany West Central in July. They had no ETA for more GWC capacity back then and told us to move to the North and West Europe regions.
Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?
#37Oof, that sucks and I feel for you. That said... > setting up in a new region would be complicated for us. Sounds to me like you've got a few weeks to get this working. Deprioritize all other work, get everyone working on this little DevOps/Infra project. You should've been multi-region from the outset, if not multi-cloud. When using the public cloud, we do tend to take it all for granted and don't even think about t…
I'll reply to my own comment in response to a since-deleted reply that went something to the effect of "this is terrible advice for a young startup trying to get to product market for": I'm totally on board with the idea of being scrappy and taking shortcuts in order to get to PMF as soon as possible. However, it seems the proof is in the pudding here. If you can't service customers due to lack of compute resources,…
GDPR might be a problem here. But this brings us to an important point: this is not your infrastructure, but someone elses.
Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?
#38> We never thought our startup would be threatened by the unreliability of a company like Microsoft You will be threatened by your own unreliability of building something that's dependant on one region or one cloud.
This is an insidious argument to make. When building a startup you should choose 1 reliable cloud provider and use their best practices to support high availability.
Cross-region architecture will be the first thing you hear about.
Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?
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Clowns are much more solid than clouds, which are famously density-light. Given their traditional proximity to solid ground, too, clowns are a much better choice of foundational substrate than a cloud to build on.
Clown-car cluster sounds like it'd be a good name for a compute product.
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