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Parasite gives wolves what it takes to be pack leaders

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Re: Parasite gives wolves what it takes to be pack leaders

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Post by wongarsu »

winReInstall wrote: post #48
shubb wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for the final line, I never realised that

Its all just thesis, nothing is proven yet.

Obviously it doesn't always happen, a cold doesn't make you more sociable. On the other hand a cold virus that managed to pull that off through some freak mutation would easily outcompete all other variants.

Mitochondria are a bit special in that it's mutually beneficial, but the same could be said about the above cold virus, if the other symptoms are mild enough.

Re: Parasite gives wolves what it takes to be pack leaders

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Post by arein3 »

winReInstall wrote: post #20

Syphillis makes you artistically brilliant, gondi makes you fearless, never felt so good, then just before exitus. So, in conclusion, if the vector has requirements, the infection will try to make the host capable of fullfilment. If the infection needs sugar, the mitochondria, will make the amobea crawl to algea.

If 30-50% of people have toxoplasma gondii, "gondi makes you fearless, never felt so good, then just before exitus" sounds like a exaggeration, because I doubt 50% are fearless, never felt so good.

Re: Parasite gives wolves what it takes to be pack leaders

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Post by BlueTemplar »

tomjuggler wrote: post #6
machina_ex_deus wrote: post #3

Imagine how dystopian that would sound in humans, like some science fiction horror. "All the leaders are secretly infected by parasites". Sounds like interesting sci fi movie premise.

With one third of humans infected it's more like the plot of an upcoming documentary..

Now I understand the purpose of trigger warnings...

Re: Parasite gives wolves what it takes to be pack leaders

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Post by winReInstall »

wongarsu wrote: post #61
winReInstall wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its all just thesis, nothing is proven yet.

Obviously it doesn't always happen, a cold doesn't make you more sociable. On the other hand a cold virus that managed to pull that off through some freak mutation would easily outcompete all other variants. Mitochondria are a bit special in that it's mutually beneficial, but the same could be said about the above cold virus, if the other symptoms are mild enough.

Urge to travel with corona intensifies.

Re: Parasite gives wolves what it takes to be pack leaders

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Post by victor106 »

stncls wrote: post #9
yesbut wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is the idea that anyone that wants to be a leader probably shouldn't be a leader. These are the types of people who crave being in positions of authority over others. They'll step on anyone they need to in order to get the the top. They might be the leader, but they usually aren't necessarily the types of people that are looking out for the best interests of the people they lead.

I was once part of a department that was so well-managed and functional that I couldn't quite believe it. Then when time came choose a new department head, someone told me that they had always specifically avoided people who wanted to lead the department for the job.

My simple mind thinks:-

Why would you want someone who does not want to do a job do that job?

If you are interviewing someone and that person said “I don’t want to do this job” would you hire that person?

Re: Parasite gives wolves what it takes to be pack leaders

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Post by TEP_Kim_Il_Sung »

yesbut wrote: post #7
machina_ex_deus wrote: post #3

Imagine how dystopian that would sound in humans, like some science fiction horror. "All the leaders are secretly infected by parasites". Sounds like interesting sci fi movie premise.

There is the idea that anyone that wants to be a leader probably shouldn't be a leader. These are the types of people who crave being in positions of authority over others. They'll step on anyone they need to in order to get the the top. They might be the leader, but they usually aren't necessarily the types of people that are looking out for the best interests of the people they lead.

There's also the Dunning-Kruger Effect; Incompetent or dumb people don't recognize their own failings and assume they are geniuses. Smart and competent people know their own deficiencies and assume they're limited or dumb.
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