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Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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Post by joshuahutt »

The5thElephant wrote: post #310
dpryden wrote: post #195

I recall from my time in Google Geo years ago that the idea of integrating Search and Maps was a big part of the "New Maps" release that happened around 2014. The rumor I heard was that someone (possibly even Larry himself) wanted to be able to have interactive maps directly on the search results page, so that the navigation from a search query to a map wouldn't involve even a page reload. So the big Maps frontend re…

It is absolutely bizarre to me how half-assed Google is with integrating its products. I have a week of events coming up in Google Calendar each with a different event location. Why can't I see a map of all those event locations alongside the calendar with all the same event details listed? Why can't I associate a Google Calendar event with a specific album or set of photos in Google Photos and see those in the map a…

Your app looks beautiful. This is something that I've wanted to build some time. Would love to help out if possible.

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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Post by hbossy »

nolok wrote: post #211
dpryden wrote: post #195

I recall from my time in Google Geo years ago that the idea of integrating Search and Maps was a big part of the "New Maps" release that happened around 2014. The rumor I heard was that someone (possibly even Larry himself) wanted to be able to have interactive maps directly on the search results page, so that the navigation from a search query to a map wouldn't involve even a page reload. So the big Maps frontend re…

This makes perfect sense product wise, if I'm searching "bakery" on my mobile phone I probably want the ones around me and not the generic location-agnostic google search of it, just like I would if I was searching on map. Matter of fact, this is actually something I do a couple times a month, search then clic the maps tab to see localized results then from them click the website result to find their webpage. As a te…

It gets really annoying when you are trying to search for some specific term in English and google keep guessing that you wanted something that sounds similar in your native tongue.

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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Post by donavanm »

pifm_guy wrote: post #234
titzer wrote: post #228

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This is achievable with geolocation based on IP address, which is how it works on, e.g. a desktop web browser.

Less than half the population has decent geolocation by IP. Most people the IP address will only identify the country or even nothing at all. Not much use if you want to search bakery's.

Coming from the CDN land this isnt true. We didnt put too much effort in to precision, but on the order of 99% of IP addresses get down to metro area. Cheap commerical providers like Maxmind get to the right postcode on the order of 90-95% of the time. Building your own latency and peering maps bridges that gap to 99% or better. Simply based on network topology and latency we should be able to get you down to post code or general area of a city.

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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Post by Y_Y »

arminiusreturns wrote: post #180
underdeserver wrote: post #163

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Google is huge. You'd be surprised how something that's common knowledge in one team is completely unknown to other teams.

Hanlons Razor is a fallacy on it's face and I'm so tired of the incompetence excuse for actors who are repeatedly bad.

You're a fallacy on your face.

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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Post by savingsPossible »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #243
godzillabrennus wrote: post #169

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If only there was a drop in replacement for Google Workspace… even if you use Fastmail for email you don’t have Google docs anymore and that’s a huge piece…

You might want to check out: https://framapad.org/abc/ (this organisation has a lot of FLOSS cloud alternatives to Google products) https://cryptpad.fr/

thanks!

Unfortunately it seems there is only text editing, not spreadsheets or forms (those I use a lot)

But I'll look into it, and probably transfer my docs there

It is important to use user respecting software when we can :)

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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Post by savingsPossible »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #243
godzillabrennus wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only there was a drop in replacement for Google Workspace… even if you use Fastmail for email you don’t have Google docs anymore and that’s a huge piece…

You might want to check out: https://framapad.org/abc/ (this organisation has a lot of FLOSS cloud alternatives to Google products) https://cryptpad.fr/

sorry, my bad, cryptpad seems to have it all!

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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Post by Swenrekcah »

notjtrig wrote: post #371
Swenrekcah wrote: post #363

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Fair enough, but that’s also a cool new feature that drives sales. I meant it more like, why wouldn’t they fix this objectively bad input mechanism? It would take tiny effort but it wouldn’t improve their sales or they might even calculate that it drives usage of iPhones and therefore good for them even though it’s bad for the users. For the record I own both an Apple TV and an iPhone, inasmuch one can pretend to own…

I had to look up this linear keyboard they created, pretty unique. Seems like it can be changed. Settings > General > Keyboard, then switch from “Automatic” to “Grid”.

Wow! Thanks!

For some reason I wasn’t getting automatic updates but after a manual update I can now see and set this option.

I retract my earlier statements, thank you Apple devs!

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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Post by oceanplexian »

philsnow wrote: post #313
nolok wrote: post #211

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This makes perfect sense product wise, if I'm searching "bakery" on my mobile phone I probably want the ones around me and not the generic location-agnostic google search of it, just like I would if I was searching on map. Matter of fact, this is actually something I do a couple times a month, search then clic the maps tab to see localized results then from them click the website result to find their webpage. As a te…

> if I'm searching "bakery" on my mobile phone I probably want the ones around me And yet for me, even in google maps on my iphone, when I search for bakery, the first one is almost always one that's ~40 miles away, and the closest one is almost always the second in the list. The rest of the list is definitely not sorted descending by distance. If I've searched for a _particular_ ABC bakery, I get other bakeries comm…

This behavior works exactly the way you would expect in Apple Maps. A search for a bakery returns relevant nearby results.

The fact that Google doesn’t see the blatantly obvious problem, or that they try to argue that the users are wrong is a textbook case of why Apple has been doing OK in the market downturn while Google’s business continues to crash. Apple prioritizes their core products and human interface design, Google prioritizes short-term (advertising) revenue, while neglecting their core products in favor of the latest shiny thing.

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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Post by oceanplexian »

asadotzler wrote: post #294
vetinari wrote: post #225

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I understand your point, but anyway, no app, no browser should ever think that "it knows better" and attempt to fix what it considers incorrect. It may think that it protects the user, but in reality, it will break what the user configured. Private DNS zones are common, and if the browser ignores user configured DNS, they will break. And as I wrote elsewhere, just because the machine is configured to use 53/udp for a…

If a general purpose browser can empower hundreds of millions or even billions of regular users with better privacy (and ultimately, security) by making a change that might disrupt a small handful of power users who manually configure this stuff, I say the browser should go for it. The power users are the very people who can, without much effort at all, reconfigure their stuff, or easily find a special purposed brows…

> If a general purpose browser can empower hundreds of millions or even billions of regular users with better privacy

This statement makes a huge assumption, that the DoH provider is more trustworthy than your existing DNS provider. Personally, I trust my ISP (Small, locally owned) with my query history than I trust Google (Massive, exploitative advertising company). The fact that Google is automatically turning this on to scoop up DNS information without users consent should be illegal.

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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Post by JohnBooty »

thanhhaimai wrote: post #346
The5thElephant wrote: post #310

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It is absolutely bizarre to me how half-assed Google is with integrating its products. I have a week of events coming up in Google Calendar each with a different event location. Why can't I see a map of all those event locations alongside the calendar with all the same event details listed? Why can't I associate a Google Calendar event with a specific album or set of photos in Google Photos and see those in the map a…

> It is absolutely bizarre to me how half-assed Google is with integrating its products The answer can be summed up in one word: "privacy". There are two forces at play here. One side wants privacy. When they give data to Google Calendar, they don't want Google Maps or Ads know about it. The other side (your opinion above) wants more integration between services. In this political climate, the privacy side has an edg…

    The answer can be summed up in one word: "privacy"
I don't understand this.

Once Google has my data, how does it affect my "privacy" if Google Service A shares it with Google Service B?

I'm somewhat privacy conscious, but I don't understand the concern there. I assume that once I give them my data, they're already doing whatever with it internally.

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