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Re: Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving

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Post by sph »

superdisk wrote: post #97
IndigoIncognito wrote: post #76

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It can definitely be an echo chamber, the mods tend to flag/ [dead]/ bury posts and comments for no reason and turning on [dead] visibility is basically just 4chan, however I have received the most legitimate use from this site as people on it tend to be experienced and knowledgable

Like 80% of dead comments I see here are actually very valuable and reasoned.

Keep in mind that the anti-spam system is sometimes overzealous and marks new accounts as dead. Vouch those good comments whenever you see them.

But in many cases, some dead comments are from extremely toxic people in a rare moment of sanity.

Re: Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving

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Post by flippinburgers »

xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #96
spoils19 wrote: post #59

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HN: one of the last remaining Great Good Places of the Internet, a lone tavern in an iconic gateway town to the now not-so-wild west. Beyond the western borders of this little town, the tech gold rush has both expanded to epic proportions, affecting all the economies in the world, and also gone through enough booms and busts that the phrase "gold rush" seems somehow off. As more and more young'uns join and jaded vete…

It's definitely only a great, good place from a certain perspective. People I respect greatly refer to "the orange site" as "toxic", "misanthropic" or "misogynistic" and full of "microdosing" "VC worshipping wankers" who don't read TFA. It's definitely taken a different path than the one it was on c.2010 where any entrepreneur was effectively worshipped. I'm not sure if it's better or worse. The site rarely brings me…

Looking forward to Elon making some needed changes to twitter!

Re: Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving

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Post by pjmorris »

dang wrote: post #115
tacitusarc wrote: post #99

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Pulled from @dang’s profile: > Marion Milner, 'The Toleration of Conflict', Occupational Psychology, 17, 1, January 1943

Right you are. I ran across that quote in her collection "The Suppressed Madness of Sane Men". She included the quote but not the paper. I thought it was amazing, so I wanted to read the paper—which was not easy to find. Eventually someone dug me up a copy and... the quote was the only interesting thing in it. But what a quote. I don't know of anything more relevant. If any of you want to explore Marion Milner, the p…

Thank you!

Re: Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving

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Post by vermarish »

Aeolun wrote: post #87
Wistar wrote: post #22

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Also, this Proclamation issued by Governor Wilbur Cross on Nov. 12, 1936 "Time out of mind at this turn of the seasons when the hardy oak leaves rustle in the wind and the frost gives a tang to the air and the dusk falls early and the friendly evenings lengthen under the heel of Orion, it has seemed good to our people to join together in praising the Creator and Preserver, who has brought us by a way that we did not…

Is it just me, or were people much better at writing these in the past?

Could be survivorship bias. No one ever talks about a speech from the 19th century if it's poorly written.

Re: Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving

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Post by xyzzy_plugh »

sph wrote: post #120
xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #118

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Twitter as a whole? Sure, no question there. But in practice I find Twitter entirely reasonable. My feed is arguably much higher quality than HN for my purposes.

Meh. You're applying selective judgement when talking about Twitter, saying it's entirely reasonable because you are very good at avoiding the awful parts of it. Do the same with HN and you will see the good parts of it are entirely reasonable as well. Taken as a whole, I don't see how Twitter as a whole is reasonable. In my opinion, on average it is probably the most toxic, inane popularity contest of any social med…

I guess my perspective is more so that many folks on HN openly celebrate HN, and feel that it is objectively good, and folks who don't agree with that are firmly ostracized. Criticism of HN doesn't do well here.

Conversely I don't know of a single person who uses Twitter who doesn't believe it to be an absolute hellsite of inane misery.

Twitter is quite self aware, HN... not so much.

Re: Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving

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Post by superdisk »

nabakin wrote: post #103
superdisk wrote: post #97

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Like 80% of dead comments I see here are actually very valuable and reasoned.

I have dead turned on and haven't seen this myself. Any examples?

Someone replied to you claiming he's shadowbanned, and sure enough it's a dead comment and 90% of his stuff is dead as well, despite seeming to be pretty innocuous. Turn showdead on and see for yourself.

Re: Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving

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Post by Yhippa »

eigenhombre wrote: post #34
pjmorris wrote: post #30

It's an understatement to call HN a daily read for me. Does anyone else check the comments before following the link? The perspectives shared here are a valuable part of my information diet. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving!

I frequently don't follow the link unless the comments make me intrigued enough to do so. Partly because of the typically high signal/noise ratio for top comments here, and partly because of the ubiquity of paywalls, popups, horrible design and other JavaScript-heavy forms of user-hostility (or at least non-friendly or misguided) one finds in the average website. The simplicity of presentation on Hacker News is one o…

I go through the front page and right click open new tab the link to the comments section for all the stories that seem interesting. Then I go through each tab, see if the comments are interesting, and only then do I click on the article.
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