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Congressmembers Tried to Stop the SEC’s Inquiry into FTX

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Re: Congressmembers Tried to Stop the SEC’s Inquiry into FTX

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The thing about democracy is, even if the people make a bad choice it's still democracy

"The thing about democracy is, even if the people abuse their power it's still okay" - well, not much different from a non-violent dictatorship then.

No, it’s exactly the opposite. A system that puts unelected prosecutors of “abuse of power” above elected officials would be a non-violent dictatorship.

Re: Congressmembers Tried to Stop the SEC’s Inquiry into FTX

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Political parties have no legal authority to expel a member from Congress. Parties are voluntary private organizations with no formal role in any branch of government. The most the parties can really do to punish a politician is to withdraw financial and organizational support, which might make reelection difficult.

Both the House and the Senate make their own rules, and that includes the ability to unseat a member. If they really wanted to, they could (but they won’t).

Huh, I’m surprised one party who controlled the House or Senate never decided to just kick out all their opponents, if they are legally allowed to.

Re: Congressmembers Tried to Stop the SEC’s Inquiry into FTX

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That would be ideal but in reality these party members raised money for the party so.. they’re in 0 trouble as far as their party is concerned. The system is a farting contest that enables this behavior. Solution would be to do away with the 2 party system and make parties more responsible with consequences as being completely voted out if corruption isn’t handled. Now both Reps and Dems are corrupted and they known…

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If you have a government with a billion people in it, but none of them are allowed to do anything with investments or even hold/have 'extra' jobs while serving society, you reduce or remove the problem all the same.

A teeny tiny government with 1 person in it can still mess with investments on a global scale all the same if they are allowed to do so. It 'fixes' nothing.

The size and scope of a government is not what makes bad performers perform badly. It's bad people combined with bad policies. How bad is a different topic (there is no absolute 'badness', but there are definitely differences).

Re: Congressmembers Tried to Stop the SEC’s Inquiry into FTX

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Their parties should kick them out and replace them with more principled people.

The thing about democracy is, even if the people make a bad choice it's still democracy

From "Teller Reveals His Secrets" (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/teller-reveals-h...)...

"7. If you are given a choice, you believe you have acted freely.

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When I cut the cards, I let you glimpse a few different faces. You conclude the deck contains 52 different cards (No. 1—Pattern recognition). You think you’ve made a choice, just as when you choose between two candidates preselected by entrenched political parties (No. 7—Choice is not freedom)."

It may still be democracy, but the task of the people isn't to pick the best or most desirable policy/candidate/etc. It's to pick from the presented selections. If all choices are bad, nothing good will come of it no matter what you call it. Add an option for "None of the above/Do-over" and I'll have more faith in democracy.

Re: Congressmembers Tried to Stop the SEC’s Inquiry into FTX

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In March . And not FTX specifically, but crypto in general. So, as d1str0 said, yes, very inflamatory (and misleading) headline.

The headline is still accurate, as stopping SEC inquiry in crypto would have the same effect.

Re: Congressmembers Tried to Stop the SEC’s Inquiry into FTX

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Both the House and the Senate make their own rules, and that includes the ability to unseat a member. If they really wanted to, they could (but they won’t).

Huh, I’m surprised one party who controlled the House or Senate never decided to just kick out all their opponents, if they are legally allowed to.

What would be the upside? They are already fairly powerless in the opposition and this would be a huge scandal

Re: Congressmembers Tried to Stop the SEC’s Inquiry into FTX

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The eight congressmen: Tom Emmer (R-MN) Warren Davidson (R-OH) Byron Donalds (R-FL) Ted Budd (R-NC) Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ) Jake Auchincloss (D-MA) Ritchie Torres (D-NY) Darren Soto (D-FL) The signed letter: https://emmer.house.gov/_cache/files/0/c/0c7fc863-7916-4b19-...

Why do they keep telling us bipartisanship is dead?

Because once Cthulhu devoured the Ds and Rs there was no "bi", only bones.

Re: Congressmembers Tried to Stop the SEC’s Inquiry into FTX

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There are politicians and media publications protecting Sam Bankman-Fried's criminality, but these congressmen aren't among them. The letter in this article was written in March. FTX's long-term fraud has only been known since early November.

You don't have to know about specific bad actions to shield the entity that is doing them.

Re: Congressmembers Tried to Stop the SEC’s Inquiry into FTX

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That would be ideal but in reality these party members raised money for the party so.. they’re in 0 trouble as far as their party is concerned. The system is a farting contest that enables this behavior. Solution would be to do away with the 2 party system and make parties more responsible with consequences as being completely voted out if corruption isn’t handled. Now both Reps and Dems are corrupted and they known…

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Now, I understand that there are very valid logical supporting arguments for small government, but let me get this straight:

In a situation where massive fraud was committed by a corporation because the government inaccurately blocked government oversight, your solution is to decrease the size of the government... presumably meaning the oversight never would have been attempted in the first place.

Crypto is exactly where libertarian advantages should be manifesting - the advocacy of a small government is exactly _more_ situations like FTX.

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