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The U.S. Needs More Housing Than Almost Anyone Can Imagine

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Re: The U.S. Needs More Housing Than Almost Anyone Can Imagine

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The full picture gets worse the more you look into it. The largest home builders in the nation aren’t building homes at budgets that most can afford. So you’d say to yourself, well clearly they’re targeting the affluent then. Except there are only so many high income Americans you can sell to, and not all of them want expensive homes. So what do these builders do? They build-to-rent! Yep. Those single-family homes yo…

This is a misunderstanding of how pricing works. The homes that are beig built aren't expensive because they're fancy, they're expensive because they're scarce and people need them, so they bid against each other. Every building markets itself as "luxury", but this is in fact just marketing. In principle you could make units cheaper by dividing them up into units with less floor space, but that people are already renting the larger units in groups.

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Zoning for who? America has no issue with single family zoning. I’m assuming you’re speaking about middle and high density zoning. Since the issues you're describing are extremely common for those zoning projects.

If you're the property owner it should be easy for you to build whatever level of residential density you want and think the market will make profitable. Why is it illegal for me to build townhouses on my land? I'm in an area where it takes, on average, 1.8 acres per single family home. The next town over would put 18 single family homes in that same space. Zoning is restrictive even for single-family homes.

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Re: The U.S. Needs More Housing Than Almost Anyone Can Imagine

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The full picture gets worse the more you look into it. The largest home builders in the nation aren’t building homes at budgets that most can afford. So you’d say to yourself, well clearly they’re targeting the affluent then. Except there are only so many high income Americans you can sell to, and not all of them want expensive homes. So what do these builders do? They build-to-rent! Yep. Those single-family homes yo…

>So you’d say to yourself, well clearly they’re targeting the affluent then. Except there are only so many high income Americans you can sell to

They're targeting high net worth individuals looking for a store of value (or, in some cases, a foothold/bolthole from their repressive government).

High income Americans are to these flats what jewellery/smartphones are to gold - the underlying use value that, combined with natural scarcity, drives the hoarding instinct.

It's quite possible to pull the rug out from under the feet of the ultrawealthy by instituting a steep land value tax. This would kill the hoarding instinct, kill the NIMBY instinct and drive more efficient use of land.

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Not just the USA The housing situation in the UK is beyond critical.

The UK's problems are about distribution not supply. We subsidise OAPs to sit alone in 4 bed houses in areas that need workers, then there is no space or money left for working families...

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The full picture gets worse the more you look into it. The largest home builders in the nation aren’t building homes at budgets that most can afford. So you’d say to yourself, well clearly they’re targeting the affluent then. Except there are only so many high income Americans you can sell to, and not all of them want expensive homes. So what do these builders do? They build-to-rent! Yep. Those single-family homes yo…

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're the property owner it should be easy for you to build whatever level of residential density you want and think the market will make profitable. Why is it illegal for me to build townhouses on my land? I'm in an area where it takes, on average, 1.8 acres per single family home. The next town over would put 18 single family homes in that same space. Zoning is restrictive even for single-family homes.

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Denser cities use less water.. Biggest consumer of water is agriculture. There are natural places to increase density as traffic increases. So think of a main road, along that main road and some of the nearer side streets can be densified. You see a lot of this along El Camino for example in the Bay area.

Take a bunch of these 1950s and earlier small 2bdrm houses and build multifamily housing.

Re: The U.S. Needs More Housing Than Almost Anyone Can Imagine

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The full picture gets worse the more you look into it. The largest home builders in the nation aren’t building homes at budgets that most can afford. So you’d say to yourself, well clearly they’re targeting the affluent then. Except there are only so many high income Americans you can sell to, and not all of them want expensive homes. So what do these builders do? They build-to-rent! Yep. Those single-family homes yo…

This is a misunderstanding of how pricing works. The homes that are beig built aren't expensive because they're fancy, they're expensive because they're scarce and people need them, so they bid against each other. Every building markets itself as "luxury", but this is in fact just marketing. In principle you could make units cheaper by dividing them up into units with less floor space, but that people are already ren…

Agree. The luxury finishings are in fact quite cheap.

Re: The U.S. Needs More Housing Than Almost Anyone Can Imagine

#18

Not just the USA The housing situation in the UK is beyond critical.

I think it’s still possible to actually get housing in the UK, it’s just more expensive than you’d like. (There’s lots on the market near me.) Look at somewhere like Ireland where it’s getting to the point where there almost literally just isn’t any housing available at all. Lines of hundreds of people applying to get any property that comes onto the market.

Re: The U.S. Needs More Housing Than Almost Anyone Can Imagine

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Not just the USA The housing situation in the UK is beyond critical.

It's absolutely ridiculous now. It was also in the news today that net migration was 504,000 this year. I absolutely think it was the right thing to do (mostly refugees from Ukraine and Hong Kong) but if you're going to have these migration policies and you've got a housing supply and affordability crisis, you've absolutely got to implement mass house building policies at the same time. This government is an absolute joke but I have very little faith that Starmer is going to be much better. My plan is to leave whilst I still can.

Source: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/net-migration-at-record-l...

Re: The U.S. Needs More Housing Than Almost Anyone Can Imagine

#20
There's no situation in which the NYC subway can accommodate a 50% increase in riders. Just building housing isn't enough.

I do think this article is right about a lot of things, but I think that if we could magically increase housing, we would find what NYC found building highways: building them actually created traffic, and they could never catch it.

If a city's infrastructure can't dramatically increase, the city's full. New York would need to double transit infrastructure to make current use comfortable.

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