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Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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If your threat is google, it would be wise not to use google in the first place. As other mentioned, OSM is an alternative (not equivalent) of Google Maps.

If only there was a drop in replacement for Google Workspace… even if you use Fastmail for email you don’t have Google docs anymore and that’s a huge piece…

drop in replacement for Google Workspace?

has everybody forgotten it was replacing Microsoft?

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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1. The change does exist (although it apparently has been live for quite some time in some regions at least) 2. The change does have the effect of Google gaining more permissions (and subsequently more data) than previously 3. The author assumes that (2) is the (main) reason why (1) was done in the first place Regardless of whether (3) is correct or completely wrong - and regardless of whether the author truly believ…

> The change does have the effect of Google gaining more permissions (and subsequently more data) There's a huge logic gap here. Obtaining more permissions doesn't at all imply obtaining more data when it's caused by an incidental change. Maybe the permissions aren't being used outside of the Maps context, or maybe it doesn't matter because the data was already be known.

Google search asks for geolocation. So the permission absolutely is being used.

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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This makes perfect sense product wise, if I'm searching "bakery" on my mobile phone I probably want the ones around me and not the generic location-agnostic google search of it, just like I would if I was searching on map. Matter of fact, this is actually something I do a couple times a month, search then clic the maps tab to see localized results then from them click the website result to find their webpage. As a te…

> if I'm searching "bakery" on my mobile phone I probably want the ones around me Only when you're using a phone? Only if you're not at home? What if you want to find out what a bakery is? (Apologies for rapid fire, I'm not having a go at you, just curious)

> Only when you're using a phone?

No, eg when I'm at the office, and we talk about where to go eat and I type restaurant, or I need a new stapler and I type office supply, etc ...

> Only if you're not at home?

Not really, eg "movie theater" or "flower shop" come to mind for things I would request while at home

> What if you want to find out what a bakery is?

I would type what is a bakery or define bakery ?

I'm a long time tech user, I miss the days of keyword centric search as I felt I could more easily communicate to the search engine what I wanted, but let's be honest those days have passed, most people type sentence and thus the engine interpret sentences

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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Unfortunately this is really not an option for (some) areas in the US. After having moved to a populous LA area from Germany I was baffled at the lack of detail in the maps. Basic things like building numbers are entirely missing. Even after adding more and more details I would never fully rely on OSM here sadly. And if it only works sometimes why even bother using it in the first place? At least this was my progress…

Interesting. In my experience, OSM's level of detail in Amsterdam is much higher than Google's. Especially in bike routes, an area that Google often sucks at.

OSM is usually better in Europe. Even some rural paths were mapped as streets in Google maps. But in USA it is probably other way around.

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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Its reverse for translate. https://google.com/translate redirects to translate.google.com

I can understand why: Translate is the only service that works in China. Countries with censorship laws can easily choose what they allow.

I suspect this may more be to do with large organisations (and equally foreign governments) wanting to block Google translate, since it can be used as a proxy in some cases.

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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I wonder if AppleTV's atrocious single-line onscreen keyboard fits into this picture of making things less discoverable, or if it's just an extreme of form over function.

Whatever the reason (and I can think of many) it just shows how Apple is past the point of caring for their users.

I’m about to enable the new Facetime Live Transcription feature in iOS 16 so my wife can have conversations with her father, who is rapidly losing his hearing. For this reason (and I can think of many) I strongly disagree.

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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It is absolutely bizarre to me how half-assed Google is with integrating its products. I have a week of events coming up in Google Calendar each with a different event location. Why can't I see a map of all those event locations alongside the calendar with all the same event details listed? Why can't I associate a Google Calendar event with a specific album or set of photos in Google Photos and see those in the map a…

An example of poor google integration that bugs me from time to time - when you search for a geographic feature, the info panel shows a great preview map with the outline of the feature. E.g. https://www.google.com/search?q=rhine+river If you click into google maps, the outline is gone. Searching "Rhine River" just puts a marker at one point along the river.

FWIW, OpenStreetMap can do it. I went to https://osm.org, entered "Rhine" into the search and clicked on the first result. Deeplink: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/123924

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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It is absolutely bizarre to me how half-assed Google is with integrating its products. I have a week of events coming up in Google Calendar each with a different event location. Why can't I see a map of all those event locations alongside the calendar with all the same event details listed? Why can't I associate a Google Calendar event with a specific album or set of photos in Google Photos and see those in the map a…

> It is absolutely bizarre to me how half-assed Google is with integrating its products The answer can be summed up in one word: "privacy". There are two forces at play here. One side wants privacy. When they give data to Google Calendar, they don't want Google Maps or Ads know about it. The other side (your opinion above) wants more integration between services. In this political climate, the privacy side has an edg…

IMO you’re spot on. The catch being that between showing an ad and matching photo locations, the former has a near straight impact on the bottomline while the latter is murkier. When both are going through reviews, that’s a lot of weight difference in the arguments and we’ll see more of one that the other.
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