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FTX’s ownership of a U.S. bank raises questions

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Re: FTX’s ownership of a U.S. bank raises questions

#21

My question is why the NY times is still running a summit where SBF is currently still scheduled to speak.

I obviously can’t speak for everyone, but personally, I am much more interested in what he has to say now than I was pre-collapse.

He can say that they were testing a new AI system that failed while they were sleeping...

Re: FTX’s ownership of a U.S. bank raises questions

#22

My question is why the NY times is still running a summit where SBF is currently still scheduled to speak.

He hasn't been convicted let alone charged with a crime (yet). When he is, his actions weren't violent. He's not a radicalizing figure and letting him speak doesn't hurt anyone (as opposed to an Alex Jones type).

Not violent directly perhaps. I agree that letting him speak now won't hurt anyone, physically for sure.. but theft and destruction of wealth is not without consequences, in real life.

If, through my actions, you become financially ruined, I may not have kicked, beaten, or raped you, but is the harm comparable? Is it violence?

Re: FTX’s ownership of a U.S. bank raises questions

#23

My question is why the NY times is still running a summit where SBF is currently still scheduled to speak.

I obviously can’t speak for everyone, but personally, I am much more interested in what he has to say now than I was pre-collapse.

Yes, but you also seem to know more about the story than the average person. When SBF lies or gaslights, you can see right through it.

Different story for the average listener, who will be listening to most interactions with an open mind and susceptible to whichever person tends to be more charming or persuasive.

Re: FTX’s ownership of a U.S. bank raises questions

#24

My question is why the NY times is still running a summit where SBF is currently still scheduled to speak.

He hasn't been convicted let alone charged with a crime (yet). When he is, his actions weren't violent. He's not a radicalizing figure and letting him speak doesn't hurt anyone (as opposed to an Alex Jones type).

I personally view financial theft as a form of violence.

Re: FTX’s ownership of a U.S. bank raises questions

#25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I obviously can’t speak for everyone, but personally, I am much more interested in what he has to say now than I was pre-collapse.

Yes, same. Sorkin says he won't hold back.

This is a huge red flag. Bankman-Fried is acting like the fix is already in.

I won't believe this guy is actually going to prison until they slam the iron bars closed behind him.

Re: FTX’s ownership of a U.S. bank raises questions

#26

My question is why the NY times is still running a summit where SBF is currently still scheduled to speak.

He hasn't been convicted let alone charged with a crime (yet). When he is, his actions weren't violent. He's not a radicalizing figure and letting him speak doesn't hurt anyone (as opposed to an Alex Jones type).

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Re: FTX’s ownership of a U.S. bank raises questions

#27

My question is why the NY times is still running a summit where SBF is currently still scheduled to speak.

He hasn't been convicted let alone charged with a crime (yet). When he is, his actions weren't violent. He's not a radicalizing figure and letting him speak doesn't hurt anyone (as opposed to an Alex Jones type).

>When he is, his actions weren't violent

If you steal $10 from a local shop (sorry, $1000 in California now) you'll be in jail before the end of the week. Steal $1,000,000,000 eight times over and you.. get to speak at a NYT conference?

I don't know, I just want some consistency from the justice system. That's not too much to ask for, or expect, really.

Re: FTX’s ownership of a U.S. bank raises questions

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He hasn't been convicted let alone charged with a crime (yet). When he is, his actions weren't violent. He's not a radicalizing figure and letting him speak doesn't hurt anyone (as opposed to an Alex Jones type).

>When he is, his actions weren't violent If you steal $10 from a local shop (sorry, $1000 in California now) you'll be in jail before the end of the week. Steal $1,000,000,000 eight times over and you.. get to speak at a NYT conference? I don't know, I just want some consistency from the justice system. That's not too much to ask for, or expect, really.

> That's not too much to ask for, or expect, really.

Please tell me what reality you live in and how to get there. Hell, just look across this site to see all the advice that ethics are for those who like staying poor.

Re: FTX’s ownership of a U.S. bank raises questions

#29
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My question is why the NY times is still running a summit where SBF is currently still scheduled to speak.

Why would other people agree to share a stage with a guy who has possibly/probably(?) committed a massive fraud?

For personal entertainment? I dunno?

I mean something is gonna go down, might as well be there for the popcorn.

Re: FTX’s ownership of a U.S. bank raises questions

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think he's that stupid.

Then again, I've been telling myself the exact same thing since the start of this saga and I have been proven wrong every single time.

Yes, but no - putting aside the whole organizational, accounting etc failure, he just doubled the stakes each time he could.
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