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When my kid was younger, I’d be asked: When would you go back to in a time machine? Dinosaurs? Cave people? Romans? I’d always reply: Nothing before antibiotics, anesthesia and modern dentistry.

Love it or hate it, this year I’m grateful for Zoom. It’s only maybe halfway towards the goodness of in-person meetings, but at least it’s that.

Re: Ask HN: What are you grateful for?

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I don't understand the (American?) concept of "gratitude". I think it's because it necessarily implies someone to be grateful to, most likely a divine being or an abstraction of it (such as the spirit of universe). I see the world as a chaotic place where most things are done through pure will of humans, and random events. If somebody does something good to me, I'm grateful to them. My current employer recruited me w…

I think you may be confusing gratitude with "toxic positivity". Gratitude is not a weapon wielded to prevent growth, that's more like "toxic positivity", where you must be positive no matter what. Gratitude is about drawing attention to the goodness in life, whether someone is bestows that thing upon you depends on your definition of it. There are lots of definitions of gratitude, some focus on the social aspect, oth…

> I say this not to guilt you into being grateful, but to remind you that you seem to have a lot of goodness in your life.

Sure, I agree. There is a lot of good in my life.

What seems to cause dissonance is how my life still feels like shit, despite all those good things. The answer I most often hear to this is "well, if you practiced more gratitude, you'd appreciate those things" - which feels like the old religious cliche of "if God doesn't help you, you aren't praying/believing enough".

But to ask a concrete question - how would you describe the "activity" of practicing gratitude to, say, a child who's never heard of such a phrase? Is it just the act of pointing out "good" things about your life to yourself, or is there anything more to it?

Re: Ask HN: What are you grateful for?

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For context, my lowest three lumbar vertebrae were surgically fused five years ago, so it's now one solid bone with a bunch of titanium hardware that is no longer needed but not worth removing. The fact that the joints and surrounding muscles don't move and haven't moved in a long time means they can get pretty stiff and start throbbing and swelling after any prolonged usage.

I had no idea exactly how bad that can get until I was assigned to a booth at SC22 last week and we had no chairs, so I was standing the whole time. I lasted about three hours each day, and after that, my low back was knotted up to the point I couldn't stand up straight, and it impinged enough to make my hips and knees swell up, too.

So I'm grateful I don't have to do that. I've got a job I can do from my bed. For the record, I am quite active. I walk anywhere from an hour to two each day, though not in one shot. I lift every morning. But there's apparently quite a difference between brief bouts of intense activity and being on your feet for a prolonged period of time. There was a thread the other day here, possibly yesterday, about unemployed people in their 50s and 60s being excoriated for not getting jobs in an economy with low unemployment, and responses mentioning those jobs might be things like Walmart greeter or whatever. Cue the invited discussion about what exactly might be "beneath" a person of a certain history, but as far as I can tell, there seem to be enormous categories of jobs I couldn't do even if I wanted to, including many jobs I've done in the past like Disneyland performer, retail store manager, Army officer, park custodian. I could not be a Walmart greeter. I couldn't be a pilot or a long-haul trucker or a rideshare driver, since I can't sit for long periods of time, either. I can't be a park ranger or a tour guide.

I'm lucky as hell that the job I happen to have is a job I can actually do, and I'll be grateful for as long as that continues to be the case. And I will continually advocate for companies that have jobs that can be done from home to allow those jobs to be done from home, without reprisal and without stigma, to expand the pool of people who can work.

Re: Ask HN: What are you grateful for?

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A small neighbourhood bakery with a large diesel generator in Lviv that stayed open every day since the war in Ukraine started. Even during complete power blackouts they stayed open, brewed coffee, baked croissants, and let everyone charge their devices. Nowadays it's overrun with programmers like me as it's a reliable source of power and internet.

My small Bluetti EB70 that lets me take hot showers when Russians launch rockets at our infrastructure and disconnect whole cities from the grid.

Electrical engineers that keep fixing the grid so that my Bluetti can charge from time to time.

A friend with Starlink who's happy to share internet. Simple things!

Re: Ask HN: What are you grateful for?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you may be confusing gratitude with "toxic positivity". Gratitude is not a weapon wielded to prevent growth, that's more like "toxic positivity", where you must be positive no matter what. Gratitude is about drawing attention to the goodness in life, whether someone is bestows that thing upon you depends on your definition of it. There are lots of definitions of gratitude, some focus on the social aspect, oth…

> I say this not to guilt you into being grateful, but to remind you that you seem to have a lot of goodness in your life. Sure, I agree. There is a lot of good in my life. What seems to cause dissonance is how my life still feels like shit, despite all those good things. The answer I most often hear to this is " well, if you practiced more gratitude, you'd appreciate those things " - which feels like the old religio…

I completely understand how you feel regarding the dissonance, because I can also feel the same way. Sometimes depression makes it easy to "rationally know" you have a lot to be grateful for, but it can somehow be twisted against oneself and turned into shame. Practicing gratitude can help you to learn how to allow yourself to feel happiness and contentment.

In an ELI5-type answer: "Practicing" gratitude involves actively noticing your feelings of appreciation for something good in your life. That something good may be a meal, a relationship, overcoming an challenge, etc.

For an adult beginner a gratitude journal is a great place to start! You can purchase one, like the "6-Minute Journal" or you can grab a blank piece of paper and pick a prompt from this pdf[1]. Pick a prompt: "Something beautiful I saw today..." "A fun experience I had..." "Someone I admire.." and spend a few minutes writing about that. Write in your journal 2-3 times a week. That's it!

[1]: https://www.therapistaid.com/worksheets/gratitude-journal

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