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Lost 8th century Japanese medical text by Buddhist monk has been found

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Re: Lost 8th century Japanese medical text by Buddhist monk has been found

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It's a pretty amazing story, and shows that if you do something (like publish a book) but can't get it in front of the right people then you might as well not have done it. > The first person to teach traditional Chinese medicine in Japan was an 8th-century Buddhist monk named Jianzhen (Ganjin in Japanese), who collected some 1,200 prescriptions in a book: Jianshangren (Holy Priest Jianzhen)'s Secret Prescription. Th…

52 generations of teachers passing it to their disciples, not 52 generations of the same family. Much easier to do since someone's son might be a little shit with no recourse but you probably aren't going to train a disciple for years and then have them turn out to be untrustworthy. This is more like a copy of some important christian manuscript getting passed down from St Peter to Pope Francis 260 times over the past 2000 years.

Re: Lost 8th century Japanese medical text by Buddhist monk has been found

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post #5

It's a pretty amazing story, and shows that if you do something (like publish a book) but can't get it in front of the right people then you might as well not have done it. > The first person to teach traditional Chinese medicine in Japan was an 8th-century Buddhist monk named Jianzhen (Ganjin in Japanese), who collected some 1,200 prescriptions in a book: Jianshangren (Holy Priest Jianzhen)'s Secret Prescription. Th…

52 generations of teachers passing it to their disciples, not 52 generations of the same family. Much easier to do since someone's son might be a little shit with no recourse but you probably aren't going to train a disciple for years and then have them turn out to be untrustworthy. This is more like a copy of some important christian manuscript getting passed down from St Peter to Pope Francis 260 times over the pas…

> This is more like a copy of some important christian manuscript getting passed down from St Peter to Pope Francis 260 times over the past 2000 years.

That's actually still pretty incredible. There's a reason that large document caches are our main source for the translations of the Bible, today. Preserving even religious documents through all the upheavals of time and politics, is not a small matter, even if they have a large team dedicated to it. (Which early on, was not the case).

Re: Lost 8th century Japanese medical text by Buddhist monk has been found

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Anyone know where we can read/study these ancient medicines? The article talks about it - but completely just leaves that bit out. Kind of a tease?!

The 2009 book in question is "Three Treasures" [0]

[0] https://www.amazon.com.au/Three-Treasures-Exploration-Focusi...

Re: Lost 8th century Japanese medical text by Buddhist monk has been found

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"Lost 8th-century Japanese medical text by Buddhist monk has been found in a book published in 2009."

Yep it's weird. From the title only, it look like Liu et al. made a discovery, when the main protagonist is in fact Lei Yutian, the descendant of one of the disciples. Thanks must be made to his masters for preserving this recipes during 52 generations.

Re: Lost 8th century Japanese medical text by Buddhist monk has been found

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You can only wonder how many documents like this were lost in China during the Cultural Revolution, when thousands of temples and everything else associated with the Four Olds [1] were willfully destroyed. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Olds

Reminds me of a Tibetan library I saw on Reddit the other day. Here’s the wiki link[1].

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakya_Monastery

Re: Lost 8th century Japanese medical text by Buddhist monk has been found

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I collect old medical textbooks and I strongly believe our doctors today know less than did doctors at ~1900. Would be amazing to know what information even older medical texts contained.

I absolutely guarantee you that they don't.
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