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> LDC LDC for Windows is an awkward experience: https://github.com/ldc-developers/ldc/issues/4047
I'm not seeing a major problem here, you just need to install MSVC++ alongside it.
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> input for a large community is extremely valuable In the early stages, everyone has a thousand opinions and it’s not clear even to those working in jai daily what exactly the language wants to become and which patterns should be supported. From what I understand, Blow intends to gradually open things up as the project matures, which I think is 100% the right approach for something fairly experimental and with a lot…
It's 8 years old
Calendar years is not a good measure of how much work has gone into a language. Think in terms of person-hours instead.
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Right that makes sense. I’m curious if the gaming industry will switch languages, it feels like with the current game engines that it’s heavily entrenched in C and C++. Feels like something like Carbon has the best chance to break in.
A chunk has already switched to C# with Unity. Most other engines (proprietary, Unreal, etc) have decades of C++ that would require too much effort to migrate to anything new.
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I think that Jai / Zig / Odin all started around the same time. D is closer to C++ than C, in my opinion. I suspect that Jai was an inspiration for Zig and Odin. Many developers in gamedev circles are still using C or orthodox C++ (C++ without most of the bullshit) but are frustrated by many features and gaps. Short compilation time is one of the big goals, as it is crucial for fast iteration. The goal is simply to h…
> D is closer to C++ than C, in my opinion. In terms of what the language allows you to do, yes. However, if you're a C programmer, you can pretty much just keep writing the same code you've always written (minus the preprocessor, thankfully). You can even compile C code with the D compiler and call those functions from your D code without doing anything further. That's definitely not the case with C++.
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I mean this is a little pedantic. It's true he never said that only games are able to use his language as if it were some kind of law, but he did say that his language is being designed to address issues that video game developers face and that was his main, and almost exclusively his only concern. If other domains benefit from that, he's not going to actively bar them from using his language, but he also won't give…
It's just false, i'm in the closed beta and there are a lot of people that use it for other things than games. When they find a bug or have a suggestion he give them the same consideration as anyone.
I don't know if OP is the blog owner. If yes, I'd love to have an option to subscribe to an email list. I've installed an RSS feed but email is still my preference. Thanks!
I'm really interested to see Jai in the wild, but I have to say I find the Jai v.s. Rust comparison here...unconvincing to say to least. It's particularly funny to be excited about "being able to do anything during compilation" using Jai and then complain to that the #1 problem in programming is "culturally tolerated and even encouraged complexity."
Complexity often arises from restrictions on "anything", rather than people actually doing anything.
I wrote an extremely hard and complex program in which I had to use c++ metaprogramming throughout. Not my decision. I do not understand why you could possibly need more metaprogramming than C++ provides. This is a problematic feature to begin with. Not worthless but not worth much. The debugging was difficult. Many problems show up buried in literally thousands of compiler error messages.
That's the issue with C++ metaprogramming. It's so unwieldy and complex that the benefits are difficult to see and the occasions to be worthwhile limited. When the language has better (i.e. simpler) facilities for meta-programming like D, it will open big venues where it makes sense to use it. It is like programming object oriented in C, it is possible to do but so unwieldy and requiring discipline and verbose boiler…
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I don’t think Go was ever especially over-hyped, and it has been pretty wildly successful in its “niche” (server side programming, CLI tools, daemons, etc). There was some controversy because someone said it was for “systems programming” by which the author seems to have meant “distributed/networked systems” rather than “operating systems” or whatever most people mean when they use the (very imprecise) term “systems…
"virtually the entire container ecosystem" An entire area of software that is completely unnecessary, but because the gods at Google gifted it to us, people have to pretend it's amazing
I don’t understand how this language is planning on ever seeing adoption when it’s been restricted from open use since it’s inception. Seems like vaporware.