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Is wine fake?

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Re: Is wine fake?

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> a sweet test ... chemical tests Assuming this isn’t just an autocorrect issue, is there a word for this phenomenon of writing an incorrect but similar word that’s also on your mind? It happens to me with annoying frequency.

Should have coded your brain in Rust, then you wouldn't have these sort of unsafe concurrent memory-access problems

Dude, my brain is already rusty enough.

Re: Is wine fake?

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I live in wine country. Used to have winemakers in the school PTA, so I got to know some of these folks... I'd completely agree with your professor. I'm not a "serious" wine drinker, but with a couple pointers you can pretty quickly start telling the difference in quality. One of our favorite "party tricks" is to set a budget ($10, $15, $20, etc) and buy a handful of bottles - turns out there's a lot of very enjoyabl…

> but with a couple pointers you can pretty quickly start telling the difference in quality Interesting, for most other things I can taste, nobody has to teach me to identify quality. Either it tastes better or it doesn't.

If you drink enough wine, and that means frequency, not quantity, you will eventually develop your own taste for what you enjoy. At the same time, you will also learn to judge good from bad. Will you be able to judge the individual grape or region? Probably not, but good from bad, yes. To the point that you will occasionally dump a bottle down the drain after taking the second or third sip. Not the first, because sometimes your first sip will be a lie, but by the second or third, you will decide, this bottle is not working, and you'll just dump it down the drain. Make sure to note the grape/vintner/vintage so you don't buy it again.

It is important to buy different bottles of the same grape to see how it varies across vintners and regions. It is also important to buy different grapes, because you may be surprised over time what vintages you settle on as your tastes develop.

Re: Is wine fake?

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> but with a couple pointers you can pretty quickly start telling the difference in quality Interesting, for most other things I can taste, nobody has to teach me to identify quality. Either it tastes better or it doesn't.

Drink enough wine and you will start to lean towards "critically acclaimed" wines by yourself after a while. What's "enough" varies from individual to individual.

My note above, enough relates more to frequency than volume. Exposure to one serving (a serving is not a full glass!) two or three times a week matters more than five or six servings once or twice a month.

Re: Is wine fake?

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Reminds me of the loss leader strategy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_leader A retail shop will put TVs on sale for 50% off but only keep 5 in stock. They advertise it everywhere, 100 people show up looking for cheap TVs, find it's out-of-stock and buy one of the expensive ones that are only 5-10% off.

You're describing Bait and switch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait-and-switch

I know the difference, that's still how it works in practice

Re: Is wine fake?

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> I asked them what sample attribute had the highest correlation with sales and without even hesitating they told me it was sugar content. This was the cause of a big scandal back in the 1980s when it was discovered that some Austrian winemakers were adding antifreeze to their wines. The wines are tested for their sugar content, but diethylene glycol has a sweet test and wouldn't be detected on standard chemical test…

> a sweet test ... chemical tests Assuming this isn’t just an autocorrect issue, is there a word for this phenomenon of writing an incorrect but similar word that’s also on your mind? It happens to me with annoying frequency.

Freudian slip or parapraxis?

Re: Is wine fake?

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Have you had Covid lately? It can severely affect taste and smell.

Nah, this has been going on for about 15 years for me. I haven't tried wine recently because to me it tastes so bad.

Apparently any corona virus can wreck havoc with your taste. But it is all very unclear.

Re: Is wine fake?

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I assume the big brands get part of the way there by mixing old and new wine, though.

> I assume the big brands get part of the way there by mixing old and new wine, though. I don't think they can - wine is usually sold by vintage year. "Origin" is usually weaker (e.g., 50% of grapes must be from the declared origin) and my understanding is that is where you can "adjust" year-to-year.

Some of the cheap brands (Barefoot for one) don’t have a vintage. So I think they can do a solera-type system for their wines.

Re: Is wine fake?

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Not all wines are the same! Some can benefit from aging but not all. The whole idea of "sealing" wine in a bottle is to keep it and not actually change it. It's a preservation method. However, the bottle is not really completely sealed and the small air gap at the top is not empty either. The cork might allow a tiny amount of air transfer too. The remains of the wine creation process might also leave some reactive co…

Haha. Rewinding back to my university days, I had picked up what I thought was a very nice bottle of Beaujolais. I put it above my fridge... and fast forward, opened it with my Bride of 20 years. Pure vinegar. I suspect that bottle had just about everything wrong done to it storage wise, outside of freezing solid.

Also, Beaujolais.

Re: Is wine fake?

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I have a theory on the Pepsi challenge: Pepsi is sweeter and so it performs better in a single taste test but is gross when drunk frequently.

I thought this was a well established fact.

I've never seen it suggested.
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