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Web3 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to Fail

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Re: Web3 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to Fail

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Post by yieldcrv »

there is a subset of web3 that is a pretty unique evolution of web 2.0 which is great for developers and product marketing

specifically it comes to the stack

web 3 application: free static frontend website, 3 variables in a smart contract deployed for 50 cents, a funnel consisting of a single call to action which is a payment, where the profit is immediately fungible and not blocked anywhere

this is applying web 2.0 principles but simplifying them to such convenient extremes that its pretty obvious why developers keep choosing it and bringing their whole communities over there

have you seen a backend interview stack for any web 2.0 organization. have you seen the funnels for any web 2.0 organization, any SaaS product? have you seen what accepting payment is like, and actually having money you can use elsewhere? its all so much more complicated for less upside

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Post by DonHopkins »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0#Web_2.0

>The term "Web 2.0" was coined by Darcy DiNucci, an information architecture consultant, in her January 1999 article "Fragmented Future": [...]

Then Web 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, 6.0, 7.0, 8.0, 9.0, 10.0, and 11.0 immediately followed in a quick succession over a few short years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_3.0

My web goes to 11, so I stopped paying attention after that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMSV4OteqBE

Web 3.0 sounds antique!

Re: Web3 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to Fail

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Post by bastawhiz »

It's worth noting that the title here confuses "web3" with "web 3.0". It means "web3".

Web3 is the crypto nonsense that the article talks about, which has almost nothing to do with the web. Web 3.0 is Tim Berners Lee's vision for a decentralized web:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/04/web-inventor-tim-berners-lee...

I think it's an important distinction to make. Web 3.0 is noble in its vision and intentions, while web3 has been the crypto industry's attempt to get folks interested in their tech with a buzzword that sounds like it's the next hot thing.

Re: Web3 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to Fail

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Post by k__ »

roody15 wrote: post #8
ugjka wrote: post #3

I seriously do not see and never saw how "Web 3.0" is a follow up from web 1 and 2. The whole thing was a hijack by ponzi schemers or just another way to get someone to get their life savings into some crypto nonsense.

Exactly… NFT’s blah blah .. blockchain everything .. came off as like a sales pitch and never seemed to resonant as where the web was headed

Web2: you stop paying a cloud provider, your data is gone.

Web3: you stop paying a network, your data stays online. Either because it's permanent by default (blockchain, blockweave) or because people deem it interesting and pin it (IPFS)

Seems like a fundamental improvement to me.

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Post by TekMol »

Web3 is already making inroads piece by piece into the web.

It started with ssh. Once keys were exchanged, you did not have to trust the infrastructure providers anymore. You knew whom you are talking to and that the communication is not tampered with. Similar with https.

A recent development is that ActivityPub profiles have private keys and publish their public keys. So if you run your own Fediverse node, you already are in control of keys that identify you as you.

I think this trend will continue to slowly put the social graph into the hands of the people.

Re: Web3 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to Fail

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Post by ghaff »

bastawhiz wrote: post #15

It's worth noting that the title here confuses "web3" with "web 3.0". It means "web3". Web3 is the crypto nonsense that the article talks about, which has almost nothing to do with the web. Web 3.0 is Tim Berners Lee's vision for a decentralized web: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/04/web-inventor-tim-berners-lee... I think it's an important distinction to make. Web 3.0 is noble in its vision and intentions, while web3…

While I agree that Web3 != Web 3.0, as far as I can tell, the meaning/scope of Web 3.0 has changed as well. At one point, as I recall, it was pretty much a synonym for the Semantic Web (which really never took off broadly). However, it now seems to encompass some other stuff that Tim Berners-Lee has been working on more recently.
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