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Some Maya rulers may have taken generations to attract subjects

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Re: Some Maya rulers may have taken generations to attract subjects

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Post by ss108 »

Apocryphon wrote: post #9
golemotron wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disapprove. It should be changed to match the adjective form of other countries or regions like Singapore/Singaporean, Mexico, Mexican.

Perhaps it is fitting that the same rival people/nation that oppressed them suffer from the same ambiguity: Spanish vs. Spaniard.

Could you use those in sentences to indicate where you think the ambiguity is?

Re: Some Maya rulers may have taken generations to attract subjects

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Post by Apocryphon »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #17
Apocryphon wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps it is fitting that the same rival people/nation that oppressed them suffer from the same ambiguity: Spanish vs. Spaniard.

There is zero ambiguity there. What were you trying to say?

Ambiguity about ambiguities, delicious.

Re: Some Maya rulers may have taken generations to attract subjects

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Post by Apocryphon »

ss108 wrote: post #21
Apocryphon wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps it is fitting that the same rival people/nation that oppressed them suffer from the same ambiguity: Spanish vs. Spaniard.

Could you use those in sentences to indicate where you think the ambiguity is?

While it is not incorrect to refer to the people as the Spanish, the proper demonym is Spaniard. But people often use the former to refer to the people/nationality anyway. It also frequently gets into further confusion with related identities such as Hispanic, Latino, etc.

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Post by speakfreely »

Apocryphon wrote: post #9
golemotron wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disapprove. It should be changed to match the adjective form of other countries or regions like Singapore/Singaporean, Mexico, Mexican.

Perhaps it is fitting that the same rival people/nation that oppressed them suffer from the same ambiguity: Spanish vs. Spaniard.

I know everyone likes to hate on Europeans, but the Mexican government has a more substantial history of oppressing the Maya than the Spaniards.

Re: Some Maya rulers may have taken generations to attract subjects

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Post by Apocryphon »

speakfreely wrote: post #24
Apocryphon wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps it is fitting that the same rival people/nation that oppressed them suffer from the same ambiguity: Spanish vs. Spaniard.

I know everyone likes to hate on Europeans, but the Mexican government has a more substantial history of oppressing the Maya than the Spaniards.

And if the separatist movement had succeeded, we’d be talking about the Yucatán government, sure.

Re: Some Maya rulers may have taken generations to attract subjects

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Post by thaumasiotes »

Apocryphon wrote: post #22
thaumasiotes wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is zero ambiguity there. What were you trying to say?

Ambiguity about ambiguities, delicious.

You do not appear to know what the word "ambiguity" means.

Re: Some Maya rulers may have taken generations to attract subjects

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Post by [deleted] »

golemotron wrote: post #7
alistairSH wrote: post #6

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Generally, Maya refers to the people and culture, while Mayan is the language. He is Maya. They are Maya. Maya ruins. Maya clothing. Mayan languages (30 odd ancient, plus one currently spoken in the Yucatan region).

I disapprove. It should be changed to match the adjective form of other countries or regions like Singapore/Singaporean, Mexico, Mexican.

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Re: Some Maya rulers may have taken generations to attract subjects

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Post by tomjakubowski »

theGnuMe wrote: post #15
alistairSH wrote: post #6

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Generally, Maya refers to the people and culture, while Mayan is the language. He is Maya. They are Maya. Maya ruins. Maya clothing. Mayan languages (30 odd ancient, plus one currently spoken in the Yucatan region).

eh? If we are now saying he is Maya vs Mayan, well news to me. He is America. America clothing. America buildings.

Same difference as Arab and Arabic.

Re: Some Maya rulers may have taken generations to attract subjects

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Post by tomjakubowski »

golemotron wrote: post #7
alistairSH wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally, Maya refers to the people and culture, while Mayan is the language. He is Maya. They are Maya. Maya ruins. Maya clothing. Mayan languages (30 odd ancient, plus one currently spoken in the Yucatan region).

I disapprove. It should be changed to match the adjective form of other countries or regions like Singapore/Singaporean, Mexico, Mexican.

Neither "Maya" nor "Mayan" (in this context) refers to any place name.
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