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Re: For some with ADHD, the low rumble of brown noise quiets the brain

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Post by etempleton »

Gene_Parmesan wrote: post #145
triggercut wrote: post #110

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That sounds similar to me. I was diagnosed unexpectedly at 38 and it changed my life. There is a good chance your internalised coping mechanisms are adding undue stress to your nervous system, making you tired and depressed, and ironically exacerbating the conditions for symptoms to become more disruptive (when you're tired, aren't eating properly, hyperfocusing too much and wearing yourself out, working late nights…

Same, except aged 28. I completely randomly happened to stumble upon a detailed description of inattentive ADHD, and had the thought, "Hmm, I wonder how doctors are able to differentiate between someone who has these symptoms and has ADHD, and someone like me who has these symptoms but doesn't have ADHD." Then it hit me like a brick wall. Now I understand the phrase "it was like time stopped." Blinders came off and I…

It is interesting you say this. While I have never been diagnosed ADHD I have been diagnosed with anxiety and was on SSRIs for about a year, which did help tremendously, but there were side effects and ultimately I decided I was in a place I could manage without the medication and so far have.

I am interested in if you could elaborate on how ADHD medication helps you with anxiety.

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Post by jstarfish »

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I did, my Blood Pressure is not great either but luckily, not enough to prevent taking anything, but enough to be careful. I'm in ok shape, not the best I've ever been in, but not terrible. I just take something to help reduce my heart rate at night. Unfortunately stimulants don't have much of an affect on me so I take quite a high dose at the moment. I'm doing all the suggested things to help them along, like increa…

Question: what's the issue with citrus in this regard? Does it make long-acting medications not work as intended? My doctor never mentioned anything about citrus so I'm curious. thanks

Citrus (grapefruit is probably the worst offender) inhibits your body's absorption of some medications, so taking both in conjunction can become toxic over time.

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Post by blahburn »

etempleton wrote: post #54

I don't know if I have ADHD, but if I do an online survey it says I most probably definitely do. I was never diagnosed as a child because I largely functioned as a kid and was quiet and non-disruptive, but looking back the signs were all there. Fast forward as an adult I have a number of coping mechanisms and one of them is to have something on in the background. I have never associated the effectiveness with the noi…

I feel the same way, but still wanted music in the background. This channel was a great balance since I can't understand the lyrics, but the tunes are catchy enough to hum to sometimes. https://www.youtube.com/@MyAnalogJournal

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Post by StillBored »

sph wrote: post #9
dboreham wrote: post #6

Music works for me, as long as it has no complex lyrics and I don't spent too much time searching for the perfect music to listen for the task at hand.

My coding juice is psytrance music. If my brain is a CPU, psy is a GHz clock, and it's technical and intricate enough to keep me stimulated but not distracted. I am a fan of Infected Mushroom, Talpa, Grouch and the 296h "Psytrance Collection - Full-On, Offbeat & Progressive" playlist on Spotify. But for me music is only for menial tasks. For deep thinking, it's silence and frantically pacing around the house with pen…

Yah, thanks there is some good stuff there.

For those that do the techo/trance/electronica.

Check out di.fm. A couple decades ago !!!! I wrote a large fraction of one startup's code base listening to them and groove salad on soma.fm. Then when they died during the .com bust, I flipped over to another and repeated the process at a place that survived selling said product for another 20 or so years. Caffine and vocal trance calmed the head down enough to sit in that flow state for 8+ hours a day for weeks on end and just hammer it out.

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Post by LoganDark »

DenisM wrote: post #281
LoganDark wrote: post #249

Does anyone know any real-time brown noise generators that can be used from a web browser?

https://mynoise.net/ ?

mynoise.net just overlays short mp3 files: https://cdn.mynoise.net/Data/WHITE/0a.mp3 [0-9][a-b]

There's no looping I can tell, though, and it is tweakable. So thank you!

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Post by MichaelApproved »

sph wrote: post #260
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I’m guilty of overthinking everything. It’s come in handy as a programmer but it tends to hold me back socially. I’d often think about social interactions ahead of time. My brain would create countless situations that I’d play out. Once I exhausted one situation, I jump into analyzing the next possible situation. On and on I’d go. I’ve only recently been able to quiet down my beehive brain a bit thanks to a few reali…

This resonates with me a lot. I can be quite genial in social settings, but it's extremely taxing to my psyche because I unwillingly rehearse and predict all possible outcomes and how would I react. I catch myself having had a mental back-and-forth between myself and the person I have to meet, and if it's to be a particularly unpleasant occasion, I will have a heated argument all in my head that leaves me upset for h…

> I will have a heated argument all in my head that leaves me upset for hours.

The conversation is imaginary but the emotions are real.

I used to think my ability to deep dive situations was a superpower but it’s really a curse.

Thankfully, I’m learning to shed the worst of it.

Hope you can too.

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Post by MichaelApproved »

MouseTown wrote: post #257
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I’m guilty of overthinking everything. It’s come in handy as a programmer but it tends to hold me back socially. I’d often think about social interactions ahead of time. My brain would create countless situations that I’d play out. Once I exhausted one situation, I jump into analyzing the next possible situation. On and on I’d go. I’ve only recently been able to quiet down my beehive brain a bit thanks to a few reali…

> Of course, there were other things that helped calm my brain down. Things that helped me take a step towards these realizations and act on them. Please share. Great comment, BTW. Enlightening for someone like me who suffers from the same situation and hates himself for it.

Thanks, it means a lot to know my comment help others! I thought it was going to be buried and didn’t expect an upvote, much less getting replies that it was helpful.

It’s tough to share many of the other steps I’ve taken on a public forum. Honestly, I doubt they’d be as helpful as my previous comment because they’re so personal. Because they are so specific to me.

However, I can share that group therapy is the main resource I used to take those steps. I highly recommend it.

What’s nice about group is that I get to hear various perspectives on a situation. Everyone there has gone through somewhat similar struggles but their interpretations of those struggles are different.

As each person speaks, I find a nugget of wisdom that I can use. A bit of insight that I wouldn’t realize on my own. A phrase that finally helps a concept click in my head.

Of course 1-on-1 therapy is helpful too but group is a treasure trove of insight for personal growth.

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Post by Imagenuity »

animal531 wrote: post #143
stevebmark wrote: post #36

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More specifically open https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/whiteNoiseGenerator.php and press ‘b’ for brown noise. Use j/k for volume. I use this all the time, long before the article. White nose improves focus in everyone, not just ADHD folks. This workflow is part of my standard work. If I have a document to read, a code review, or something that’s not mechanical coding (which I use music for), brown noise helps incre…

For some reason I find that hissy, even if I turn the slider up. I found for example this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqzGzwTY-6w It feels smoother and more relaxing to me.

I've been using this exact same smoothed brown noise track for a few years now. It's worked wonders for focus and concentration! Even turned down low it works well. White noise is too high pitched and hissy. Brown noise gets quieter the higher the pitch.

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

eyelidlessness wrote: post #43
klysm wrote: post #28

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I don't think anybody is diagnosing themselves with ADHD over this, but if you have ADHD it seems like a good thing to know. I definitely agree smoothed brown noise > brown noise though.

I’m not an ADHD emissary but… please folks, self diagnose. Don’t self treat, that’s what we do anyway. If you think you have ADHD, take it seriously until you don’t. If you’re still taking it seriously, talk to a professional. We’re wildly underdiagnosed, and you’re probably right.

> We’re wildly underdiagnosed, and you’re probably right.

Why? Why is this happening all of the sudden? Is it genetics? Environment? Culture?

Why is no one asking the important questions and just popping pills and going on with their life?

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

P_I_Staker wrote: post #227
eyelidlessness wrote: post #43

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I’m not an ADHD emissary but… please folks, self diagnose. Don’t self treat, that’s what we do anyway. If you think you have ADHD, take it seriously until you don’t. If you’re still taking it seriously, talk to a professional. We’re wildly underdiagnosed, and you’re probably right.

Yeah I would argue ADHD is almost self diagnoseable. The biggest issue is similarity with depression or bipolar. ADHD people can seem more bipolar than bipolar people, because the average person doesn't understand these conditions. They would observe someone that's very mercurial and moody, and say it's definitely bipolar. Bipolar is a state that lasts for and extended time, days to weeks. It doesn't mean you're euph…

> ADHD people can seem more bipolar than bipolar people

As someone living with Schizoaffective Bipolar Disorder I cannot disagree with this more. I know many people with ADHD and they all are nothing like me.

> Bipolar is a state that lasts for and extended time, days to weeks. It doesn't mean you're euphoric in the morning, but depressed two hours later.

This is not true either for all of us. I have episodes of ultra rapid cycling that means my cycles can be as quick a two hours.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9702745/

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