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Briar: Peer-to-Peer Encrypted Messaging

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Re: Briar: Peer-to-Peer Encrypted Messaging

#131

Why this, and not something with a proven record of stability like Tox?

Tox doesn't anonymize by default. You're leaking your IP address to every peer, and you're leaking metadata about to whom you communicate to every entity in the backbone.

Also, feel free to participate in the social experiment of '4chan writes a secure messaging app with the CVE programming language', I know I never will.

Re: Briar: Peer-to-Peer Encrypted Messaging

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The battery is a bigger problem. You can work around OS issues but if yourun out of battery at the same time you are cut off from normal communications you now have two major problems, and your expedited/unexpected disappearance from the conversation creates unnecessary anxiety for others. I hope they make fixing this a priority, it's a serious shortcoming.

They are working on a mailbox app to offload the constant background tor processes which use a lot of the battery life: https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar-mailbox

Great to hear that they are working on this issue. Who will host the mailbox though?

Re: Briar: Peer-to-Peer Encrypted Messaging

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Even that extremely minor step counts as “more work” for the clientele we’re talking about here.

I would certainly expect a cruise-ship-wide paid network to be managed professionally.

Realistically though, it's probably a multi-ship contract involving some small IT firm who installs everything, and then gives the onboard electrician/maintenance-guy a quick primer on how to do basic diagnosis of problems.

I'd bet that most of the configuration decisions are made based on how to minimize the likelihood of such problems ever occurring.

Re: Briar: Peer-to-Peer Encrypted Messaging

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I can see it being useful to type and chat between each other if we aren’t seated together on a plane.

We used it with my gf to make comments about other passengers quietly.

Sounds like a very important and constructive use-case :-)

Re: Briar: Peer-to-Peer Encrypted Messaging

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> This is almost certainly poor wifi / cell coverage, not Signal having "hiccups" or "latency." Signal is very finicky about that, though. I have friends who prefer Whatsapp simply because they don’t have to worry about connection stability. With Signal, you sometimes don’t even know if messages actually arrived or not.

Especially on Signal Desktop, its more reliable to close the app and reopen it than wait for it to reconnect to the server. Meanwhile Element reconnects to Matrix super quick...

Element + Matrix. *chefs kiss*

Re: Briar: Peer-to-Peer Encrypted Messaging

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Briar is one of the most important secure messaging projects currently. Not only does it remove the need to trust the vendor about content (like with all E2EE messaging apps), you also get to keep the metadata about communication to yourself as data transits from one Tor Onion Service to another. The downside is of course, you need to keep the endpoint powered on when you want to be reachable so it will increase the…

Why would you say that Bluetooth MAC Adress problem is a "small caveat"?

This sounds like a complete showstopper to me.

Re: Briar: Peer-to-Peer Encrypted Messaging

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We used it with my gf to make comments about other passengers quietly.

Sounds like a very important and constructive use-case :-)

Watching real life social and dysfunctional families interactions is much more entertaining than netflix or telenovelas imho. :)

Re: Briar: Peer-to-Peer Encrypted Messaging

#140

My wife and I use Briar for household communication because of subsidiarity rather than any direct privacy concerns. Out of all the messenger projects that we've tried, Briar actually works for local communication. It's actually instant messaging without any client hiccups or latency (looking at you, Signal). We've tried a ton of other options, but we keep ending up back at Briar. There are points of UX friction in t…

Seems like Briar might be good for messaging to young kids. I could give them an old phone without a sim card, and run Briar on it.

Awesome idea.

You'd have no idea how many accounts they have, who they're talking to, and about what. Perfect privacy!

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