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Did you miss all the times people with mental illnesses have been discriminated and institutionalized?
European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup
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#22Here in the US, we have freedom of expression. Unfortunately, most countries (including European countries) don't.
Colin Kaepernick's NFL career has been destroyed just because he kneeled during an anthem.
More recently, Kyrie Irving had a lot of problems "just" because he shared a controversial documentary available on Amazon.
That's not what I would call "freedom of expression".
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#23Here in the US, we have freedom of expression. Unfortunately, most countries (including European countries) don't.
Colin Kaepernick's NFL career has been destroyed just because he kneeled during an anthem. More recently, Kyrie Irving had a lot of problems "just" because he shared a controversial documentary available on Amazon. That's not what I would call "freedom of expression".
100% even when BLM took off as mainstream he was persona non grata
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#24What other last min rule changes will FIFA bravely make to keep the last few payouts of those bribes going. Between Fox and AmBev they are already going to making significantly less money at 2026 because of concessions over Qatars World cup. https://adage.com/article/media/fifa-admist/309601 Must have been quite a lot to be worth it, and can’t wait to read about the sweetheart deal they give ambev to avoid lawsuits.
Honestly whatever it takes to save face I expect.
That said, "well break the rules and just pay the fine" attitudes make my blood boil. And I support ramping up the punishment for premeditated rule breaking.
That's separate from the fact that this rule is cynical and clearly to appease Qatari sensibilities
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#26Here in the US, we have freedom of expression. Unfortunately, most countries (including European countries) don't.
Your own country disagrees with you.
Freedom House researches this exact topic and they're funded by the US Government. Their current chair is a republican but they're non-partisan.
Looking at their most recent data[0], we can see the US scored 14/16 in 2022 on "Freedom of Expression and Belief", meaning that 53 countries were better by scoring 15/16 or 16/16. Of the 27 countries that scored 16/16, 11 were European. Qatar scored 6/16 by the way.
When you look at the total Freedom Index, the US scores 83/100 which is good for place 62 and lower than most of Europe. Qatar scored 25/100. Here is a world map[1].
[0] https://freedomhouse.org/sites/default/files/2022-02/Aggrega...
[1] https://freedomhouse.org/explore-the-map?type=fiw&year=2022
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#27It's interesting that the good fight for LGBTQ+ is given up as soon as there is a place with actual LGBTQ+ repression and powerful resistance. What then is this signalling for?
Strong with the weak, weak is the strong
Western Europe's motto since ww2
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#28Here in the US, we have freedom of expression. Unfortunately, most countries (including European countries) don't.
Colin Kaepernick's NFL career has been destroyed just because he kneeled during an anthem. More recently, Kyrie Irving had a lot of problems "just" because he shared a controversial documentary available on Amazon. That's not what I would call "freedom of expression".
The difference being that in the US you don't have to fear prosecution for most things you'd get prosecuted for in, say, Quatar. You might get cancelled on Twitter but you don't end up in jail or get killed at least.
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#29Here in the US, we have freedom of expression. Unfortunately, most countries (including European countries) don't.
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#30It's interesting that the good fight for LGBTQ+ is given up as soon as there is a place with actual LGBTQ+ repression and powerful resistance. What then is this signalling for?
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I find it mildly concerning that fresh accounts with on here seem to be pushing alt-right conspiracy stuff.
My take on Douglas Murray: he didn't understand Foucault, got mad about it, and decided Foucault is an evil Marxist. It kind of rhymes with Jordan Peterson's sentiments about the boogeyman of postmodernism.