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Re: For some with ADHD, the low rumble of brown noise quiets the brain

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Post by hnick » Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 10:49 AM UTC

wackget wrote: post #87

culopatin wrote: post #79

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I tried this but the sound is too… white? Is there a way of making it deeper? I’m not familiar with Sox at all. EDIT: actually in that short time I got what I needed: play -n -n --combine merge synth brownnoise band -n 550 550 Put it in a .command file, renamed it as .app, dragged it to the dock, renamed it .command, and now I can quickly trigger it from the dock at any time. Thanks a lot!

I'm having the same problem. I found this command on a random site[1] which improves it a bit: play -n -n --combine merge synth '24:00:00' brownnoise band -n 750 750 tremolo 50 1 If possible I'd like to replicate the brown noise preset used on this[2] site. If you come up with anything please let us know. [1] https://www.cloudacm.com/?p=3145 [2] https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/whiteNoiseGenerator.php

That 2nd link in 'b'rown mode immediately makes me feel like I'm standing on the seashore on an overcast day... for some reason it brings memories of Disco Elysium. Exactly what I need today, thanks.

Re: For some with ADHD, the low rumble of brown noise quiets the brain

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Post by isolli » Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 10:51 AM UTC

etempleton wrote: post #54

I don't know if I have ADHD, but if I do an online survey it says I most probably definitely do. I was never diagnosed as a child because I largely functioned as a kid and was quiet and non-disruptive, but looking back the signs were all there. Fast forward as an adult I have a number of coping mechanisms and one of them is to have something on in the background. I have never associated the effectiveness with the noi…

Music works for me if: a) it's without words, and b) I know inside out. For a long time it was Beethoven's fifth symphony :)

Music also works for me by triggering an emotional state that helps me focus.

Re: For some with ADHD, the low rumble of brown noise quiets the brain

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Post by exikyut » Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 10:52 AM UTC

dijit wrote: post #160

triggercut wrote: post #110

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That sounds similar to me. I was diagnosed unexpectedly at 38 and it changed my life. There is a good chance your internalised coping mechanisms are adding undue stress to your nervous system, making you tired and depressed, and ironically exacerbating the conditions for symptoms to become more disruptive (when you're tired, aren't eating properly, hyperfocusing too much and wearing yourself out, working late nights…

I've mentioned this before but there are serious warnings against getting tested in Sweden. I was told that it can affect my health insurance, my mortgage and that I can't hold certain licenses (Pilot, HGV). There are some direct consequences to being diagnosed and some indirect ones; and they warn that once the process of getting diagnosed starts; it cannot be stopped. So, of course, I didn't seek a diagnosis- despi…

(HGV = Heavy Goods Vehicle)

The pilot thing is the same in AU too.

Re: For some with ADHD, the low rumble of brown noise quiets the brain

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Post by isolli » Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 10:53 AM UTC

travoltaj wrote: post #111

etempleton wrote: post #54

I don't know if I have ADHD, but if I do an online survey it says I most probably definitely do. I was never diagnosed as a child because I largely functioned as a kid and was quiet and non-disruptive, but looking back the signs were all there. Fast forward as an adult I have a number of coping mechanisms and one of them is to have something on in the background. I have never associated the effectiveness with the noi…

I was diagnosed at 29. FWIW, this is exactly what it's like for me too - "Not enough stimulation and I get distracted easily, too much stimulation and I shut down completely."

This is also how I fall asleep. I need to find the right podcast; not too boring but not too exciting either.

Re: For some with ADHD, the low rumble of brown noise quiets the brain

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Post by OhHiMarkos » Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 11:03 AM UTC

isolli wrote: post #172

etempleton wrote: post #54

I don't know if I have ADHD, but if I do an online survey it says I most probably definitely do. I was never diagnosed as a child because I largely functioned as a kid and was quiet and non-disruptive, but looking back the signs were all there. Fast forward as an adult I have a number of coping mechanisms and one of them is to have something on in the background. I have never associated the effectiveness with the noi…

Music works for me if: a) it's without words, and b) I know inside out. For a long time it was Beethoven's fifth symphony :) Music also works for me by triggering an emotional state that helps me focus.

How do you feel afterwards? Let's say after a hard working session with music on. Because I just like you, use music for concentration and I can pull some long hours, but afterwards I have difficulties calming down. Maybe it's because I am tired, but I have some suspicion that the dopamine hit from music might be the culprit.

Re: For some with ADHD, the low rumble of brown noise quiets the brain

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Post by robertnn » Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 11:05 AM UTC

dijit wrote: post #160

triggercut wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds similar to me. I was diagnosed unexpectedly at 38 and it changed my life. There is a good chance your internalised coping mechanisms are adding undue stress to your nervous system, making you tired and depressed, and ironically exacerbating the conditions for symptoms to become more disruptive (when you're tired, aren't eating properly, hyperfocusing too much and wearing yourself out, working late nights…

I've mentioned this before but there are serious warnings against getting tested in Sweden. I was told that it can affect my health insurance, my mortgage and that I can't hold certain licenses (Pilot, HGV). There are some direct consequences to being diagnosed and some indirect ones; and they warn that once the process of getting diagnosed starts; it cannot be stopped. So, of course, I didn't seek a diagnosis- despi…

Another Swede here. I have never heard any of this before. Who told you this? I mean.. health insurance? You mean if you have supplemental private insurance? Mortgage? I have a mortgage and they have no access to any kind of health information and I would be very surprised if any bank would request it from me.

Re: For some with ADHD, the low rumble of brown noise quiets the brain

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Post by nicolas_t » Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 11:09 AM UTC

etempleton wrote: post #54

I don't know if I have ADHD, but if I do an online survey it says I most probably definitely do. I was never diagnosed as a child because I largely functioned as a kid and was quiet and non-disruptive, but looking back the signs were all there. Fast forward as an adult I have a number of coping mechanisms and one of them is to have something on in the background. I have never associated the effectiveness with the noi…

I've been diagnosed 3 years ago and I used to use the exact same coping mechanism as you do. I'd watch a show I've seen before while working on things. Music also worked for me to a lesser degrees but only if there's no vocals.

Getting diagnosed was one of the best thing I could have done. Knowing for sure, being able to use medication (although I limit very strictly how much I use) has been super helpful. I got tested privately, without involving health insurance. I didn't want it to be on any public records.

Re: For some with ADHD, the low rumble of brown noise quiets the brain

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Post by navane » Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 11:10 AM UTC

lloydatkinson wrote: post #157

etempleton wrote: post #54

I don't know if I have ADHD, but if I do an online survey it says I most probably definitely do. I was never diagnosed as a child because I largely functioned as a kid and was quiet and non-disruptive, but looking back the signs were all there. Fast forward as an adult I have a number of coping mechanisms and one of them is to have something on in the background. I have never associated the effectiveness with the noi…

Interesting - have you ever music without vocals such as lofi? Here's a couple of live streams I regularly listen to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4sJkuOPUP8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfKfPfyJRdk And here's a channel that as well as sometimes having a livestream regularly uploads ~1 mixes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCKbkDggYQ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GWyf-35QHI&t=2s

I recently stumbled upon this one, could be a whole genre: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcqFKzzYc44

Re: For some with ADHD, the low rumble of brown noise quiets the brain

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Post by dijit » Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 11:11 AM UTC

robertnn wrote: post #176

dijit wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've mentioned this before but there are serious warnings against getting tested in Sweden. I was told that it can affect my health insurance, my mortgage and that I can't hold certain licenses (Pilot, HGV). There are some direct consequences to being diagnosed and some indirect ones; and they warn that once the process of getting diagnosed starts; it cannot be stopped. So, of course, I didn't seek a diagnosis- despi…

Another Swede here. I have never heard any of this before. Who told you this? I mean.. health insurance? You mean if you have supplemental private insurance? Mortgage? I have a mortgage and they have no access to any kind of health information and I would be very surprised if any bank would request it from me.

The information I got was from a company called Modigo but it was already discussed with my private psychologist; So Modigo just clarified what I had been told and had understood in writing.

Regarding the mortgage thing, I had the same feeling as you, but how it works is that mortgages are cheaper if you buy them with private insurance (income protection, life insurance).

For example: Nordea (a bank) and “If” (an insurance company) have a close partnership offering discounts for each others services when buying an apartment or house. Based on the information If gives backs to Nordea there can be greater discounts on mortgages; this worked in my favour previously and I got a 1.34% mortgage when the list price for 3y fixed was 2.1%.

It could be expanded further to say that if “If” considers me too high risk from various factors regarding my health that they would not even offer me health insurance at all, then the bank could use as justification itself that I am high risk and not extend a loan offer.

Re: For some with ADHD, the low rumble of brown noise quiets the brain

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Post by p00dles » Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 11:12 AM UTC

0xFEE1DEAD wrote: post #169

I use this too. You should know the iPhone has this as a accessibility feature. Go to Accessibility -> Audio/Visual -> Background Sounds -> Sound -> Dark Noise After that go to Accessibility -> Accessibility Shortcut -> Background Sound and you'll be able to activate the noise with a tripple side button click

this is amazing, thank you so much.

I have been using a 90-minute Brown Noise loop on Spotify, but even though it is downloaded on my phone, I have to connect to the internet to start using it, which can lead to distractions when messages start pouring in.