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Re: We are sorry to inform you that you are in a cult

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post #53
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My reading is that the very fact that it's so abstract and general is itself the point. What could the cult be? Politics? Religion? A particular professional mindset or focus? Many could fit. Apart from the reference to "promise of godly exaltation or gift in a theoretical afterlife" (which nod towards religion), you could apply a lot of this to many social groups.

Yup, the rest could apply to just about anything, but this brief phrase near the end makes it pretty clear that it's about religion. That, and phrases like "the cult has left noticeable marks on you". Somehow all atheists (or at least the militant kind) seem to believe religious people are all deeply scarred and twisted, no matter how "watered-down from its original form" their "cult" may be.

The clever part about this writing is that it's so vague it applies to everyone. If you squint one way it's the group you are in. If you look sideways it's the group you dislike.

It's brilliantly subversive and makes you think.

Re: We are sorry to inform you that you are in a cult

#63
post #7

I was waiting for the part that would make it clear what was being satirized, and it never came? I feel like I'm missing context?

All of your unquestioned cultural norms and biases.

Everything your parents, your family; your community and your society taught you.

The heuristics that keep you navigating life without having to scrutinize every single choice from first principles.

Re: We are sorry to inform you that you are in a cult

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post #7

I was waiting for the part that would make it clear what was being satirized, and it never came? I feel like I'm missing context?

Read carefully and compare the related sentences. For example:

> They make you depend solely on others within the community for your every need...

Is followed by:

> We have partnerships with organizations that can connect you to schooling, work, housing, and medical care...

Re: We are sorry to inform you that you are in a cult

#65
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good indication of a cult is that there is a shopping list of specific core beliefs (say 20) you are expected to believe. And you believe 19 of them but on the 20th you have a slightly different view. If this causes you to be banished and ostracised, then it's probably a cult. JK Rowling would be an example of this.

A cult isn't a diffuse set of through processes and standards generally held in common to different degrees by different parties. That is very nearly the opposite of a cult. If you see a word with negative connotations and you desire to throw it at the houses as if it were a stray rock it may be a sign you aren't reasoning clearly. If someone was a hard core advocate for equality and justice where black and Hispanic…

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Re: We are sorry to inform you that you are in a cult

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post #53
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My reading is that the very fact that it's so abstract and general is itself the point. What could the cult be? Politics? Religion? A particular professional mindset or focus? Many could fit. Apart from the reference to "promise of godly exaltation or gift in a theoretical afterlife" (which nod towards religion), you could apply a lot of this to many social groups.

Yup, the rest could apply to just about anything, but this brief phrase near the end makes it pretty clear that it's about religion. That, and phrases like "the cult has left noticeable marks on you". Somehow all atheists (or at least the militant kind) seem to believe religious people are all deeply scarred and twisted, no matter how "watered-down from its original form" their "cult" may be.

"the cult has left noticeable marks on you"

Maybe they're talking about the child genital mutilation.

Re: We are sorry to inform you that you are in a cult

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good indication of a cult is that there is a shopping list of specific core beliefs (say 20) you are expected to believe. And you believe 19 of them but on the 20th you have a slightly different view. If this causes you to be banished and ostracised, then it's probably a cult. JK Rowling would be an example of this.

A cult isn't a diffuse set of through processes and standards generally held in common to different degrees by different parties. That is very nearly the opposite of a cult. If you see a word with negative connotations and you desire to throw it at the houses as if it were a stray rock it may be a sign you aren't reasoning clearly. If someone was a hard core advocate for equality and justice where black and Hispanic…

Sorry I've no idea what you're trying say here.

I'm confident I'm thinking clearly though.

Re: We are sorry to inform you that you are in a cult

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post #29
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My reading is that the very fact that it's so abstract and general is itself the point. What could the cult be? Politics? Religion? A particular professional mindset or focus? Many could fit. Apart from the reference to "promise of godly exaltation or gift in a theoretical afterlife" (which nod towards religion), you could apply a lot of this to many social groups.

> One of the hallmark tactics of a cult is to isolate you from the rest of the world. They make you depend solely on others within the community for your every need, thus making it extremely difficult to leave. This line stood out to me and seems very apt in these days. For ex, how it's now normal to go after people's jobs directly via social media pressure tactics or business's revenue (and subsequently their employ…

If you stand apart you will be preyed upon by those that do not.

We are not designed or evolved or whatever to prowl alone, because it will always be in our nature to come together and some will exploit this. And so while you stand alone they will bring all their machinations to consume your very being.

Would you really be that strong to stand alone against all those that would look to exploit you.

Re: We are sorry to inform you that you are in a cult

#70
post #6

Aside from all the content-free "Everything I Don't Like Is A Cult" chuntering I already see, what is the point of this? I thought it was a dig at how cult-like the "anticult" deprogramming stuff was back during the last big scare in the 1980s, but it isn't that, because the victims of deprogramming sessions weren't free to leave. That was rather their big problem: They kidnapped people and held them in motel rooms a…

>what is the point of this?

1. It doesn't say everything is a cult. It says 'You're In A Cult'

It's kind of a Voight-Kampff induction

You can read it as if it was written for you and perceive how it makes you feel.

2. It's an introduction. Figure out how to implement the red and green button in your life, and you can do the rest.

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