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N. Korean leader Kim Jong Il dies

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Re: N. Korean leader Kim Jong Il dies

#51
post #14

I wonder if his son's violent statements toward SK will turn into violent actions.

Yeah, I think everyone will be watching closely to see where this goes. This is a two-year-old article but it's pretty interesting to read: "North Korea After Kim Jong Il: Four Scenarios" http://www.nps.edu/Academics/centers/ccc/publications/Online...

A mixture of scenarios two and three have long been considered the most likely by many "informed" (a relative term for NK) observers.

Re: N. Korean leader Kim Jong Il dies

#52
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's been grooming Kim Jong Un (his son) for quite a while now.

Kim Il Sung was his father. Kim Jong Il's son Kim Jong Un is the annotated successor, though will be a puppet for a while, if he survives the next few days and weeks.

> Kim Jong Il's son Kim Jong Un is the annotated successor

I'm pretty sure you meant "anointed" there.

Re: N. Korean leader Kim Jong Il dies

#55
post #14

I wonder if his son's violent statements toward SK will turn into violent actions.

Not for at least 20+ years. His son is about to achieve one of the last great overt dictatorships in the world. I bet everything he is going to want to taste that power for a long time before he actually does something aggressive. That is not to say he doesnt press his luck, make a strategic failure and gets attacked (e.g. not accepting a rothschild-backed central bank)

I believe you meant to say "...he wont press his luck"

Re: N. Korean leader Kim Jong Il dies

#56
post #23

After his death, Kim Il-sung was declared the country's Eternal President. Could it be possible to take control of North Korea by getting a plant in there, killing Kim II Sung and his family and then using his power to work behind the signs and use the totalitarian Stalinist dictatorship to morph the country into a free capitalistic republic? Sounds like something the special forces could do in a few weeks, it just h…

> Sounds like something the special forces could do in a few weeks, it just has to be a surprise so the military doesn't get a chance to respond.

Right, because surprising nutjobs with nukes is a great idea.

Re: N. Korean leader Kim Jong Il dies

#57

I've lived in South Korea for two years and this is the most I've ever heard people talk about Kim Jong Il or North Korea. Even the shelling of Yeonpyeong Island in 2010 didn't generate this much talk. This is also the first time I've ever heard anyone tell a joke about North Korea. People are telling jokes in the street right now.

Maybe the joke what he heard was about his cause of death. I am South Korean and there are many joking tweets about it. It's not really usual expression in South. But after I read the comment below about the chinese trope, understood why they announced like that...

Re: N. Korean leader Kim Jong Il dies

#58
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's been grooming Kim Jong Un (his son) for quite a while now.

Kim Il Sung was his father. Kim Jong Il's son Kim Jong Un is the annotated successor, though will be a puppet for a while, if he survives the next few days and weeks.

Yes, "anointed", typed too fast & forgot to re-read. :-(

Thanks for the note.

Re: N. Korean leader Kim Jong Il dies

#59
post #45
post #14

I wonder if his son's violent statements toward SK will turn into violent actions.

North Korea is very skilled at manipulating world opinion to seem like a rogue state. They know very well that their existence depends on never taking action, no matter what they say. Think of them like a crazy family member that keeps in trouble unless people pony up cash and you pretty much have their entire strategy in a nutshell.

Well, beyond that you have the fact that in order to maintain the kind of control that the regime maintains, they need isolation. This means that they do things to get isolated, so that the North Koreans get only one side of things.

As US News and World Report once commented, threatening the North Korean government with isolation was like threatening a drowning man with a life preserver.....

Re: N. Korean leader Kim Jong Il dies

#60
post #44

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Honestly I find it in a bad taste. Also, there is nothing to ashame about using IE especially IE9. It's truly a decent enough browser.

IE6/7 have left so many mental scars on developers over the years that I think "IE" will evoke those two for developers for many years after it stops being objectively worse.

I find this comparison offensive and juvenile.
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