IQ is a dismal measure of intelligence (2019)
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IQ is a dismal measure of intelligence (2019)
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Re: IQ is a dismal measure of intelligence (2019)
#2The article doesn't appear to suggest a viable substitute for IQ. It concludes that we should "[measure] what an intellect can accomplish in a lifetime," but this isn't really practical.
IQ is not a perfect measure of intelligence, but I think it's better than no measure of intelligence.
Re: IQ is a dismal measure of intelligence (2019)
#3There's some youtube videos by Dr. Tod Grande. (I know, sue me.)
IQ is about 4% of what makes up your personality. So whatever your intelligence is within a standard deviation, other factors are much more important.
TL:DR; it's better to be a track star with a big d*k than a fat genius in a basement apartment.
Re: IQ is a dismal measure of intelligence (2019)
#4The article doesn't appear to suggest a viable substitute for IQ. It concludes that we should "[measure] what an intellect can accomplish in a lifetime," but this isn't really practical. IQ is not a perfect measure of intelligence, but I think it's better than no measure of intelligence.
I'd disagree. The use of bogus psychometrics is not socially neutral. It's used to filter applications to university courses, jobs, and so on. They make a systematically, imv disasterous, effect on the lives of everyone they come into contact with.
IQ tests are only a clincally valid test of extreme mental deficits. They do not correlate with objective measures of above-average performance, and have created a "metrical culture" with severe unethical concequences.
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#5The more one reads about IQ from serious statisticians, the worse the story of modern psychology becomes.
There is a "pseudoscientific tradition" of statistics wherein one assumes systems are linear, one uses only linear models, and wherein one reports only associations on non-experimental conditions. This tradition was invented by psychologists, for psychology, and it's had horrific ethical consequences. I'd go so far to say that any system or results obtained by this method should now, a priori, be regarded as pseudoscience and should require a massive cross-disciplinary consensus to be regarded otherwise.
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Re: IQ is a dismal measure of intelligence (2019)
#7It's sort of like getting a computer's performance.
All sorts of things goes into a measure.
Central processing speed, memory, memory access speed, cache size, software optimization and cache build up.
I think some people really WANT IQ to be only about central processing speed, but since that's not measurable we're trying to tease out what it is from the end performance metric. But really everything is important to intelligence, and something like software optimization and cache build up is really just education.
IQ measures things that are useful to other people when thinking about a person's as-is work-value, but is fundamentally flawed and useless when applied to a person's potential value or moral value.
But since the former is true it will continue to be a thing that people care about.
Re: IQ is a dismal measure of intelligence (2019)
#8Intelligence itself is not a perfect proxy for effectiveness, which is what people assume IQ eventually implies
Re: IQ is a dismal measure of intelligence (2019)
#9The article doesn't appear to suggest a viable substitute for IQ. It concludes that we should "[measure] what an intellect can accomplish in a lifetime," but this isn't really practical. IQ is not a perfect measure of intelligence, but I think it's better than no measure of intelligence.
Nobel winner James Heckman did a lot of work on this [1].
The takeaway is that IQ doesn't matter as much as other attributes (character, learned skills, etc.) in life outcomes.
HN style crows way overvalue IQ style skills when intelligence has multiple dimensions, many of which matter more than IQ.
IQ is effectively just a measure of test-taking skills. That's useful in some areas, but you could see someone like Gengis Khan or Nikola Tesla be incredibly intelligent and a poor test taker.
[1] https://heckmanequation.org/resource/i-q-isnt-everything/
Re: IQ is a dismal measure of intelligence (2019)
#10The article doesn't appear to suggest a viable substitute for IQ. It concludes that we should "[measure] what an intellect can accomplish in a lifetime," but this isn't really practical. IQ is not a perfect measure of intelligence, but I think it's better than no measure of intelligence.
Changing culture to stop seeing intelligence as some unchangeable fixed thing is probably better than having a bad measure of "intelligence".