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Ask HN: What is the thing you've built that you regret the most?

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Re: Ask HN: What is the thing you've built that you regret the most?

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post #198

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Not as far as I was ever aware. They were intended for guest areas.

So why is the RSSI thing worth having?

RSSI is just signal strength. Tracking it allows you to approximately triangulate where people are so you can say "ID #xxxx was closest to the first floor east stairwell at 10:02am". Maybe nothing is done with that data, but it's ultimately a surveillance system and enables all the potential abuses that can entail.

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Would you like to live in a society where the laws are the same as they are now, but it’s impossible to break them and not be caught? (I know I’m jumping right to where the slippery slope ends.)

If we lived in such a society I would imagine we would be a bit more careful as we drafted laws. It would also be a lot more equitable due to the lack of selective enforcement.

Even if getting there from the current state of affairs by rigorously enforcing laws to the letter is possible, it would come with a very heavy price on people while the laws get reformed.

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I worked for a company that made deep packet inspection based network equipment. Western customers mostly used it for "security" and media streaming man in the middle attacks (actually a useful feature saving lots of bandwidth). The boxes were also sold to Syria and Burma, and were used to facilitate censorship and human right abuses

And limiting torrent speeds to 40k/s during "peak" hours. Which I kinda understand, but not when its unilaterally launched against the 3rd party providers leasing the lines too!

(I guess Bell Canada, which also sells TV services, lost too many customers over this policy to their unthrottled competitors)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/small-isps-fight-ruling-that...

Canadian telecom regulators are gutless.

Though I kinda liked it when my university throttled napster and torrents, because that meant my IRC downloads went very very fast!

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The same thing that would be bad about using your phone GPS location sensors to automatically send you speeding tickets every time you wander >1mph over the limit. Even without intending to, everyone would go from a ticket or two per decade to dozens of tickets on every commute. "But the law is still the same!?!" Of course it is, but changing from poorly scalable human-required surveillance to always-on, fully-scaled…

It's still up to the manager to choose what to do about it. A reasonable manager would accept the occasional smoke break, but do something about hour long naps.

Centralized automated system like this often is not something someones (direct) manager uses, but that gets pushed down from higher up the chain. Larger disconnect, less human consideration taken, with an extra helping of "well the system says..."

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Almost all software can be abused or co-opted for surveillance purposes. It's one of the reasons I've grown more disillusioned with computer tech over the years.

I had this realization in stages. 1. Almost all software can be abused or co-opted for surveillance purposes. 2. Some software comes already designed for surveillance purposes up front . 2a. This includes plenty of well-known mass appeal software; importantly, the customer-facing marketing copy and the investor pitch can present a completely different value proposition. 3. Software doesn't become used for surveillanc…

See also _Surveillance too cheap to meter_ https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2022/7/262077-surveillance-to...

> To stop the surveillance, [they] would have to get their equipment suppliers to make changes; they would have to change their own back-office systems; they would have to reformulate customer contracts so they would not rely on the data being available in case of disputes; and so on.

> [It] would cost [them] more money to stop the surveillance of their customers than to continue doing it.

> That is quite literally what "surveillance too cheap to meter" means.

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I built a lighting system for to save energy by turning off hallway lights when not in use. The environmental aspect was great and saved hundreds of thousands in electricity. Someone eventually realized that the mesh network I built to connect all the lights together and report usage statistics could also be used to track employees moving throughout the building and catch them taking unauthorized breaks in the stairw…

anything you write that can be used to pry into someone's life will be used to pry into someone's life. without fail.

that's the rule I've always followed.

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post #168

ever heard of ActiveX? you know, arbitrary code installing and running in your browser on Windows and available to be scripted by javascript? like, instead of Java? sorry. I'm not solely responsible, but sorry, pretty responsible. we were young. code-signing as a means of validating origin was a great idea. though it needed additional infrastructure to prevent abuse and allow global revocation, and that wasn't perfec…

I actually miss the parts of ActiveX that weren't tied to the web. Like the ability to write UI widgets in different PLs and then integrate them in one app. Or the ability to embed arbitrary documents into other documents, complete with a near-seamless rendering and editing experience. It's too bad that the idea didn't catch on.

Re: Ask HN: What is the thing you've built that you regret the most?

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Eons ago, I wrote a bash script to split up a test suite to run in different order across our device matrix, so even though the suite took hours to run, it took only 10 minutes to get an email that a test was failing on some machine.

I was gone in 6 months, but 3 years later the team (having doubled and doubled) still used that dumb script. Had they buckled down redo it in Java, they would have learned a lot and would have relevant experience to get jobs in the then-burgeoning enterprise server market.

Not bad for society, just for them.

Re: Ask HN: What is the thing you've built that you regret the most?

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I built a lighting system for to save energy by turning off hallway lights when not in use. The environmental aspect was great and saved hundreds of thousands in electricity. Someone eventually realized that the mesh network I built to connect all the lights together and report usage statistics could also be used to track employees moving throughout the building and catch them taking unauthorized breaks in the stairw…

Almost all software can be abused or co-opted for surveillance purposes. It's one of the reasons I've grown more disillusioned with computer tech over the years.

The term often used for this is “dual-use”:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-use_technology

Re: Ask HN: What is the thing you've built that you regret the most?

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post #168

ever heard of ActiveX? you know, arbitrary code installing and running in your browser on Windows and available to be scripted by javascript? like, instead of Java? sorry. I'm not solely responsible, but sorry, pretty responsible. we were young. code-signing as a means of validating origin was a great idea. though it needed additional infrastructure to prevent abuse and allow global revocation, and that wasn't perfec…

That was pretty cool. I worked for a project that used ActiveX controls on webpages, via a private site you could only access through a private dial in number. Worked great.
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