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What server do you suggest they use? Android uses Google servers is that also abusive?
I don't want that sh*t to be there in the first place. No one knows better than the end user. And also, if the user could not reach some M$ server does not mean users' network was not connected to the internet. Anyway, won't be a trouble for me much longer. Retiring all my Windows instances, had enough.
Disagree.
I used thousadands of Windows machines in last decade, this is typical. You can ignore this "feature" almost entirelly.
If you introduce proxy in your system, then you can be certain that it will not work, including Windows updates. You have to masssage your system with net commands and learn about WinHTTP proxy (that nobody heard about) sfor it to sometimes work.
To deal with this and other nuisances I made 2 functions in PowerShell:
Update-Proxy https://github.com/majkinetor/posh/blob/master/MM_Network/Up...
Update-CLIProxy https://github.com/majkinetor/posh/blob/master/MM_Network/Up...
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And to my parents that will mean nothing
But they still unknowingly suffer from the harm it did to network effects and ability to deploy new types of internet apps.
(And if you want something like UPnP to let programs automatically punch holes themselves anyway, again it doesn't matter much whether we're talking about NAT or "just" a plain firewall.)
The true evilness of NAT only really comes in when it's done by some third party outside of your control (CGNAT and friends), but I think that compared to home routers doing NAT the latter is a slightly more recent phenomenon that only got widespread traction when the IPv4 shortage became more acute.
I'm not sure if it's still in use but iPhones used to hit http://www.apple.com/library/test/success.html to test connectivity. I used to use it to test connectivity on my own apps because Apple is probably better at making sure a url reachable than I am.
I believe they hit http://captive.apple.com now (and that's what I use).
Two things I’ve always wanted to do is figure out how to cache windows updates on my local network without an enterprise windows install, and how to block windows updates by sinkholing domains and/or ip addresses (I work in IT security). Can anyone give any tips on either of these?
Why do you want to block windows updates?
Being shafted like this every now and then has eroded my trust for Windows' updates.
Too bad it almost never works correctly. Even now it says I have no Internet while I do and can access those txt files. I used thousadands of Windows machines in last decade, this is typical. You can ignore this "feature" almost entirelly. If you introduce proxy in your system, then you can be certain that it will not work, including Windows updates. You have to masssage your system with net commands and learn about…
Too bad it almost never works correctly. Even now it says I have no Internet while I do and can access those txt files. I used thousadands of Windows machines in last decade, this is typical. You can ignore this "feature" almost entirelly. If you introduce proxy in your system, then you can be certain that it will not work, including Windows updates. You have to masssage your system with net commands and learn about…
It works perfectly well for 99.9999% of the users. The few exceptions are people with proxy servers, virtual machines and other exotic network configs.
I am currently on basic OS install without anything in between and it doesn't work. I just switched from home router to my phone's hotspot and its the same.
It seems its not only Windows problem. Viber desktop has exclamation icon and it will persist until it is restarted, Mattermost works, Signal works etc.
Check it out: https://i.imgur.com/Oi5gmw4.png
BTW, didnt know proxy is exotic, its literrary the norm in the company.
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Why do you want to block windows updates?
Because working in security sometimes I want to test malware on outdated AV, blocking full internet causes command and control failures, creating a weird spot to analyse traffic. Disabling Defender is not persistent (it seems to switch itself on, etc).
Note you need to disable tamper protection and reboot first otherwise it silently reenables itself.
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This is also currently the only way to bypass the need for an MS account when setting up a new PC.
And MS accounts make zero sense to anyone who has a private NAS or need to interact with anything non windows with kerberos.
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This is also currently the only way to bypass the need for an MS account when setting up a new PC.
You can also try to join a domain, enter bad credentials, wait for the error to show up, and then select a local account I believe. That may not be available in the home edition of Windows 11, though.
But yeah, I'm pretty sure the domain join is only an option on the pro and enterprise editions.
I've also found out that the domain join is only offered if it can contact the internet. I installed this on a brand-new laptop the other day, and it didn't detect the wifi card and it had no wired network. It absolutely refused to go past the "let me connect to the internet" phase until I went through the "hidden terminal" dance.
