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$477M FTX ‘hack’ was a Bahamian government asset seizure

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#81

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XKCD 538 remains ever relevant.

Not really. That one has been solved seen Bitcoin BIP 39 with plausible deniability. I mean: unless the attacker knows exactly how much coins you have, he has zero way to way if you're unlocking a decoy wallet or the real one.

So the number of coins I have is not revealed by the Blockchain ?

That sounds so complicated, that even someone with a physics degree from MIT will not be able to make it work.

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SBF straight up said multiple times it was a hack in his leaked talks with a vix reporter many days alter

Do people still hold anything this guy says as having any truth to it?

Well, i do not take it as truth that it was a hack, but I do take it as as lie that he never said it.

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Guns. Guns are how. Guns are how governments achieve their objectives. There is no crypto scheme, no algorithm, no possible arrangement of private keys and Merkle trees that can escape the reality of men with guns.

> There is no crypto scheme, no algorithm, no possible arrangement of private keys and Merkle trees that can escape the reality of men with guns. On the contrary. It's the only case where maths can defend vs men with guns. Multi sig schemes spread over different people over several continents make the "men with guns" thing very difficult. Or multisig but m-out-of-n, with a dead beat: if after x weeks you don't hear o…

"We have a seizure warrant for your cryptocurrency."

"Ho ho! Good luck, gentlemen! For, you see, I've implemented a multi-signature scheme spread over different people across several continents which requires-"

"Understood. Off to jail with you, then."

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> There is no crypto scheme, no algorithm, no possible arrangement of private keys and Merkle trees that can escape the reality of men with guns. On the contrary. It's the only case where maths can defend vs men with guns. Multi sig schemes spread over different people over several continents make the "men with guns" thing very difficult. Or multisig but m-out-of-n, with a dead beat: if after x weeks you don't hear o…

>On the contrary. It's the only case where maths can defend vs men with guns. Didn't work in this case.

They didn't have a system set up to protect against that. Their private keys were on a shared email account

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> There is no crypto scheme, no algorithm, no possible arrangement of private keys and Merkle trees that can escape the reality of men with guns. On the contrary. It's the only case where maths can defend vs men with guns. Multi sig schemes spread over different people over several continents make the "men with guns" thing very difficult. Or multisig but m-out-of-n, with a dead beat: if after x weeks you don't hear o…

>On the contrary. It's the only case where maths can defend vs men with guns. Didn't work in this case.

Pragmatically I agree with you.

But in GPs defense, I don’t believe these were multisig wallets with geographically distributed individuals in control. It was 1/1.

Nonetheless, a metal pipe is a good counter to crypto.

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You think a state’s monopoly on violence is relevant when they’re beating you to steal cryptocurrency from you? Anyone off the street can do the same.

If someone from the street does this there is a force called police which will help you. When the government does this, there is no one who will help you.

when the seconds count the police are only minutes away

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#88

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XKCD 538 remains ever relevant.

Not really. That one has been solved seen Bitcoin BIP 39 with plausible deniability. I mean: unless the attacker knows exactly how much coins you have, he has zero way to way if you're unlocking a decoy wallet or the real one.

"You are hereby ordered to forfeit your cryptocurrency or go to jail."

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No, there is a way to spoof transfer events on etherscan so that trolls can attach funny coin names to famous wallets.

How does it work?

All that happened in this case is someone created their own coin and sent it to the hacker address. If you create a coin, you can name it whatever you want, and you can send it to whoever you want.

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#90

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>On the contrary. It's the only case where maths can defend vs men with guns. Didn't work in this case.

They didn't have a system set up to protect against that. Their private keys were on a shared email account

(Lol. Sorry for the empty comment, but this FTX situation is just a comedy gift that keeps on giving. I imagine in 5 years we’ll still be discovering new things to find funny about it.)
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