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Err, pretty sure that was the entire premise of my post -- that you wouldn't be able to tell when they're not complying unless you audit and sign all their code before distribution.
This seems like an argument no Chinese software on American devices, what makes the difference?
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Err, pretty sure that was the entire premise of my post -- that you wouldn't be able to tell when they're not complying unless you audit and sign all their code before distribution.
This seems like an argument no Chinese software on American devices, what makes the difference?
I'm no fan of the CCP, but I'd take Chinese propaganda over American censorship any day.
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How does freedom of speech or more specifically the first amendment apply to a foreign owned and operated platform? If you reframed it as something else would it be different in your mind? Say, you had a foreign news service that employed American citizens to read news that was perhaps even sourced in part from American reporters but they editorialized it so that it always favored their side and belittled the America…
Sounds like you're describing RT America, which operated unimpeded until fiscal realities forced it to withdraw from the country. Was it a scummy network? Yes. Was it protected by 1A? Also yes.
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sigh can we not have targeted-by-nationality bans and instead have .. rules? If Tiktok the app is performing surveillance, ban surveillance by apps . All of them. Or make it technically impossible to escape its little sandbox, and let people have their entertainment.
If you read the first paragraph of the article, the primary concern mentioned is not surveillance, it's influencing the American public in ways that benefits China and harms the US. Psy-ops effectively Here's a segment by 60 Minutes explaining how they show their own citizens educational, beneficial content inspiring them to be better citizens, while the rest of the world gets the degenerative content we usually asso…
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No, it is literally true that every company has a party member they must answer too. Whether its a board member or a local party representative. There is no business autonomy with a court to settle differences. The party wants it, the party gets it. Full Stop. >The board of directors of a company are not generally owners. Like I said, China is not America. On Chinese Boards sits a party member who has absolute contro…
> No, it is literally true that every company has a party member they must answer too. Whether its a board member or a local party representative. Which still doesn't make it literally true that: "The Chinese government owns tiktok", (unless, in addition to using "own" figuratively you are also using "literal" in the now common sense that actually means "figurative").
I don't know how many times we have to go in this circle until we get through that dense skull. If you think you understand Chinese business because you understand western business - you don't.
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The loose use of the word "genocide" in recent years is extremely concerning. Nothing that is going on in China can be called a "genocide." No one (that I am aware of) is even alleging that China is carrying out any mass killings of any group. The use of the term "genocide" in relation to the Uyghurs is transparently propaganda, which began with Mike Pompeo during the Trump administration. Even the US State Departmen…
They are locking a distinct ethnic minority in internment camps and sterilizing their women. That is a genocide. They are attempting to remove the Uyghur people.
The Chinese government has, by all appearances, carried out a harsh crackdown on what it views as separatism and religious extremism. It has forced large numbers of people to go through political indoctrination, based on suspicions of being sympathetic to the Uyghur separatist movement or of harboring fundamentalist religious beliefs.
The Chinese government has also begun imposing the 3-child policy on Uyghur families. The 1-child policy used to only apply to the Han majority. It has been relaxed to 3 children, but is being applied more broadly.
However, the Uyghur population continues to grow. The Uyghur language continues to be an official language in Xinjiang and it is one of the primary languages used to teach children in state schools. And as I said before, life expectancy and average incomes are increasing among Uyghurs.
The Chinese government doesn't intend to "remove" the Uyghur people. It is trying to stamp out separatism, both by implementing harsh police methods and by pumping money into the region to improve living standards.
This is not what a genocide looks like. That term is just propaganda in this case, meant to influence people who aren't at all familiar with the situation in Xinjiang.
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I am worried that 1, 2 and 3 is already being used by the western governments to do the exact same thing against it's own population. The FBI is just jealous they didn't have the boot on Tiktok like they do with all other kinds of social media and websites.
I'm aware of that too, it's a problem, but the lesser one imho. At least there's some modicum of accountability with Western companies subject to Western laws, which Western citizens have some say in (if they get agitated enough at least), thus some possibility for reigning them in. There's much less or none with with Chinese companies operating in the West, and sending all the data they collect back to servers in Ch…
CCP can do very little to impact me directly. The feds could ruin my life if they wanted to - just fabricate a few charges.
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Espionage is covert by definition, and is already illegal. Spies break foreign laws as a part of their job description, and yet, they still exist.
This is a great argument for expelling all Chinese people, people of Chinese descent, people who have said anything nice about China, and people who have never said anything nice about China but I think are hindering our competitiveness against them.
Utterly ridiculous to allow TikTok to continue to operate in the current geopolitical climate. China is a surveillance autocracy and has been engaged in adversarial conduct against the West for years - including extensive psyops. Shut it down, yesterday. Build a local clone so that people can get their fix or whatever. China sure as shit doesn’t allow its citizens to cough up their personal information for algorithmi…
“Build a local clone” — the obvious answer is that both Instagram and Snapchat already have; and that nobody wants to switch. If only the US blocked TikTok, that’d just mean there’d still be a TikTok that every other western country has access to except the US, full of content interesting to Westerners. People with Android devices would just sideload it, and use VPNs to access it if necessary. The less-obvious answer…
Instagram has like a 3% success rate at suggesting content from people I don't follow. Tiktok is easily over 30%.
Calling instagram a competitor to tiktok is about as naive as thinking an infomercial will pull market share from a prime time drama: it'll catch a few, but its so much worse it has no hopes of cornering the market.
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You don’t need to escape a sandbox to monitor people’s communications that are done through your own backend servers.
And God knows China is collecting all that important juicy information on teenagers' love for the latest fad ... Man the FBI acts like tik tok is used in jet planes and nuclear power plants...
That is the only information that should be protected?