Note that this is the dictionary definition of shadowbanning, which is the primary thing the free speech advocates on Twitter were hoping Elon would stop Twitter from doing.
“Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”
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#12There's still a question of how "negative/hate" is defined and whether this will be transparent. I'm skeptical, but the general principle of discouraging and not profiting from negativity is, uh, positive.
Negativity is an extremely broad concept. There is no chance that “negative” tweets will be uniformly deboosted.
Will Elon deboost tweets from Ukrainians condemning Russian war crimes?
Will he deboost his own negative tweets toward US politicians?
Will he deboost US politicians’ tweets criticizing the other party?
Will he deboost tweets critical of his management of Twitter?
Discouraging “negativity” necessarily means “discouraging negativity based on some ideological priors”
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#13Elon “free speech” Musk. >Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted & demonetized. Guess this guy finally realized that a free for all model is not feasible.
Free as in capital, not beer.
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#14There's still a question of how "negative/hate" is defined and whether this will be transparent. I'm skeptical, but the general principle of discouraging and not profiting from negativity is, uh, positive.
We have laws that define this.
What changed was that a small group of technocrats took it upon themselves that any questioning of their ideology was “hate speech.”
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's impossible to detect negative sentiment purely by text. It's an unsolvable problem.
It's more fundamental than that. Some forms of speech can indirectly or directly limit the speech of others. Free speech absolutism in an unachievable panacea; it is a logical fallacy.
I'm not following you. What can I say that prevents you from saying something?
That would seem to violate causality.
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#16It's all about economics of demand for what Twitter is offering: advertising. Elon's changes have massively harmed the value of an ad on Twitter.
Moderation teams are massively cut, meaning advertisers have to worry about their products beside hate speech or worse. At the same time, Elon is explicitly un-banning people who were banned for hate speech, promising that no ads will show beside their future hate speech- it will just show to their many many followers who come to the site to see that exact thing. I'm not certain advertisers will be encouraged by this.
Engineering is massively reduced, meaning the operational excellence of the system is in question- what good is paying for ads if the site is down so often that users don't come back?
And there's all of the potential issues with the SEC and other legal problems that aren't being addressed because Elon fired the teams that handled those things. No sane advertising agency is signing a long-term contract with Twitter. There's just too much uncertainty.
Elon Musk is not cut out to be the CEO of a software company. The problem is that he is the only person that isn't aware of that at this point.
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#17Note that this is the dictionary definition of shadowbanning, which is the primary thing the free speech advocates on Twitter were hoping Elon would stop Twitter from doing.
No, as explained in the thread following that tweet: "Note, this applies just to the individual tweet, not the whole account"
Shadowbanning applies to accounts.
Also, nowhere in that thread does it say that the user won't be told the Tweet was demonetized, which is the dictionary definition of shadowbanning.
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#18I'm excited to see what the new policy will be tomorrow.
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#19I think he's heading towards making people pay for reach to try to get more subscription revenue. In my opinion paying for reach is what started Facebook's decline, when people realize that "your" followers are not actually theirs they lose interest.
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#20The worst aspect of twitter is the anti-fans who follow people just to disrupt any conversations that they're having, and the organized trolling groups. You could interpret this is saying that those people are going to be pushed out of threads, but you could interpret it in any way. He's really not saying anything.
The organized groups and the anti-fans would be easy to automate discovery of. Just flag people who reply in a similar manner no matter what they're replying to, and cross them with voting rings. Declaring war on negativity and hate is pretty silly, though.