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Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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Post by rich_sasha »

MonkeyMalarky wrote: post #28

The thing I don't get is the hyper-focus on salient or "fancy" code. We're not all Jeff Dean and most code is bland and boring plumbing work anyways. Even in awesome ML powered systems, it's still 99% bland foundation, 1% cool algorithms. Hell, as a manager, you don't want only "rockstar" developers because they'll become bored working on the plumbing code, which again, is most work. From datascience there's the phra…

It's simple, Elon Musk has no clue what he is doing.

Can he code.to save his life? Does he know anything about engineering from Tesla or SpaceX, beyond catchphrases?

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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Post by prettychill »

jmeister wrote: post #37
buildbot wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This shows how out of touch he is - fly, right now, possibly across the country, just to please me. He has no concept or care of how much that might cost or disrupt someones life.

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By this logic the vast majority of workers in any industry are coddled

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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Post by somehnguy »

jmeister wrote: post #37
buildbot wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This shows how out of touch he is - fly, right now, possibly across the country, just to please me. He has no concept or care of how much that might cost or disrupt someones life.

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I would go the other way and claim the other professions you mentioned must be the coddled ones. How little must they actually have responsibility for in their personal life if they can just fly across country at a moments notice? I can’t do that, I have responsibilities to take care of that are way more important than stroking some guys ego.

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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Post by mr90210 »

pydry wrote: post #16
zamalek wrote: post #10

I can barely believe this man started a spaceflight company. He must have had some incredibly subordinates to pull that off; not only did they have to deal with him, but they also had to bootstrap spaceflight.

I'm seriously wondering if this is drug related. I dont think he was always this erratic.

If you read his Ashlee Vance about him, you’ll understand that he’s always had this character on him. The biggest difference is that what he does no longer stays inside Spacex or Tesla.

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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Post by Kon-Peki »

badwolf wrote: post #23
zamalek wrote: post #10

I can barely believe this man started a spaceflight company. He must have had some incredibly subordinates to pull that off; not only did they have to deal with him, but they also had to bootstrap spaceflight.

I think a big part of SpaceX successes are due to Elon letting Gwynn Shotwell manage the company.

Apparently when they first met, she gave him a dressing down and told him a bunch of things he needed to do to be successful. He then tracked her down and hired her to do all the things.

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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Post by Barrin92 »

MonkeyMalarky wrote: post #28

The thing I don't get is the hyper-focus on salient or "fancy" code. We're not all Jeff Dean and most code is bland and boring plumbing work anyways. Even in awesome ML powered systems, it's still 99% bland foundation, 1% cool algorithms. Hell, as a manager, you don't want only "rockstar" developers because they'll become bored working on the plumbing code, which again, is most work. From datascience there's the phra…

It's literally just some bizarre hazing ritual. Trying to evaluate whether code is good or bad from some screenshots without understanding the context and being familiar with the codebase makes no sense anyway. Anyone can show you ten screenshots of formally well written code and you have no idea whether it's useless or not.

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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Post by l33t233372 »

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #7

Imagine thinking you can judge anything about a developer (especially Senior/Staffs) from screenshots of code. Elon has truly lost the plot.

I think you can judge some things. It’s crude but if you give a paragraph of context and a screenshot of a function or something, I think that gives some nonzero amount of information.

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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Post by Teandw »

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #7

Imagine thinking you can judge anything about a developer (especially Senior/Staffs) from screenshots of code. Elon has truly lost the plot.

Of course you can? It's basically asking to see what you consider your best work.

If you're earning 100k a year and the most important code you show is how you turned a link colour from light blue to blue -- then your $100,000 a year job has now become questionable.

It's hardly losing the plot to ask someone "What have you achieved and what do you think your best work is?"

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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Post by karaterobot »

butterlesstoast wrote: post #26
adastra22 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is probably eyewash to flush out leakers. Sent different emails with changed details.

Even if this is eyewash to flush out leakers... why spend the time doing this as the owner of the company? There seems to be a lot more important work they could be tackling on instead of being a meme lord to a bunch of 14 year olds.

In fairness, being a meme lord to a bunch of 14 year olds has been a big part of his playbook so far, and by some metrics it has worked a treat.

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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Post by pmoriarty »

rockostrich wrote: post #35
castrodd wrote: post #9

Did Elon lead his other companies this way and we just didn’t know? Or has he suddenly lost his ability to make good decisions?

From what I've read the past few weeks, Elon is mostly just a figurehead at SpaceX at this point and it seems like only his cultural presence (read: making everyone work long hours) is still around. Not sure about Tesla but it seems like it's about the same besides very high level business direction decisions.

I really don't get why corporations in this day and age still make people work long hours.

There have been countless studies showing that long hours lead to more mistakes, worse productivity, decreased motivation, worse health, and burnout. Workers are also more likely to leave for a job with a better work/life balance if given the chance.

It seems many corporate execs haven't gotten the message yet, and I don't know why.

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