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Re: My ADHD founder toolbox

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It’s not on you. An enormous amount of stigma surrounds the use of stimulant medication, even if it’s one of the oldest and most studied psychiatric meds there is. And the stigma is continuously reinforced by all the people who don’t need it abusing the meds. Sure, there’s also some risk for patients using them properly, but for them it does not compare to the sheer benefits provided by the meds.

You are not deficient in stimulants. So using them is not the answer. Instead, look to nutrition. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24321736/

Treatment with stimulants doesn’t treat deficiencies of stimulants. This is immediately obvious with patients who actually benefit from the meds, because they’re generally not stimulated by them. Treatment with many chemicals doesn’t treat deficiencies of those chemicals. In the case of stimulants for ADHD, they help regulate dopamine and norepinephrine intake. In practical terms, results of successful treatment include improved management of executive function, reduced social and sensory stress, and healthier sleep patterns. I can’t say what anyone else’s answer is, but stimulants saved my life because the impact of the things they helped me address were life threatening. Using stimulants as prescribed by my doctor was definitely an answer for me, and I am grateful for the life I kept intact because of that.

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I take meds for unrelated things, for allopecia, like Finasteride, Minoxidil, Saw Palmetto. I am not sure how those would interact with the medicines I saw on this thread. I also take Algae based Omega 3 semi regularly (but that stuff tastes like crayons).

Oh jeez definitely look into the potential side effects of finasteride if you haven’t already. ADHD meds have nothing on it, side effect wise.

It's worked fine for me so far.

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I'm not sure if i have ADHD, I seem to come up pretty high for Symptons, but I don't want to play doctor on the internet, i'm also in the UK and as an adult I understand it's very difficult to get a diagnosis. I'm also not sure if it's caused by something else. I just really struggle to function and it's a killer. I have lots of projects and life improvement things I want to do, but I wake up and i'm like ughh, I can…

Have you tried recently? It was only a couple months wait on NHS when I did it. I know, "only", but seeing as it had been 32 years at that point it wasn't a major wait. 2 months is good for the NHS and mental health haha. Diagnosis itself once I'd got through the wait took about 2 hours in total across 2 weekly meetings.

Unfortunately the wait lists are highly dependent on where abouts you are in England.

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As someone who is also battling ADHD, I feel super anxious reading the comments here all talking about X and Y medicine, which I am super not wanting to do. I used to do therapy but I found my therapist was making videos on Facebook about a few things I told him (though I was never named but I felt this was a huge breach of trust). I exercise quite a bit. (lots of cardio and core exercises, I particularly enjoy barbe…

Have you ever considered picking up a martial art? I did Taekwondo for some time before covid hit, and I loved the sense of community it had. Something that I've wanted to try is creating or joining a group of people who meet on a regular basis (at least weekly for me), talk about principles, projects, plans, progress, and in doing so, hold each other accountable.

I go for cycling with some people I found on Facebook. I had however stopped for the past month.

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One interesting point about stimulant meds: they also help people who don't have the ADHD diagnosis. The black market for stimulants is pretty sizeable, not to mention the legit market for things like coffee.

I've tried my GF's meds once to see what it was (and using medication is one of the diagnosis tools they use); I found myself focusing and intetionally task switching for about two hours (that and palpitations), but I wouldn't say they "help"ed me. If you feel like you need stimulants to perform well in a job, you need to reconsider your career choices. It shouldn't be a rat race.

>If you feel like you need stimulants to perform well in a job, you need to reconsider your career choices. It shouldn't be a rat race.

If you need Ed medicine to have sex maybe you shouldn't have sex.

If you need asthma medicine to breath maybe you should think twice about breathing.

Seriously, you don't have a clue about what you're talking about. Neuro divergents are almost an evolution good or bad (hyper focus can have it's benefits), most medicine for the brain is liable to do the opposite.

Caffeine and ginseng are like really good cold medicine to my wife she practically goes into a coma.

If you don't think people's brain work differently:

Do you have an inner monologue?

- yes? - talk to someone who doesn't, there's many, I found this absurd because mine is always going. - No? Talk to someone who does... Try to imagine what it'd

Repeat the above for people with synesthesia or aphantasia.

Reality, the brain, consciousness... It all exists within the circuitry of our brain and the flow of electricity and hormones paint your experiences in life

With a deficiency in dopamine which we all mostly have (ADHD), you do need help.

For you, you could end up overdosing on dopamine which itself can cause some major mental issues.

Best to lay off other people's meds.

Hell, I take Vyvanse my wife Adderall, when I ran out I took hers as she's on a dose that about matches my vyvanse but they have different internal mechanism.

Adderall gave me anxiety, depression, and jitters.

Even within ADHD circles it's probably best to stick with the meds you're prescribed.

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And ‘parenting’ and the other things I’ve manage to choose. However, jobs I can’t stand I leave (eventually) One of the concerns over meds is that it would enable you to do those jobs you just don’t (and maybe shouldn’t) do.

lol, I don't think I take enough of anything to do things I don't want to or shouldn't do. This has helped me to do the things that I want to do. It more helps on the task level and less the overarching job level.

It is so interesting how it manifests differently by different people.

I still don’t subscribe to ‘it’s all ADHD’ where everything gets lumped into this block of behavioral reasoning.

I think it’s at an OS level but I think we are just a little more sensitive than non neurodivergents. And that comes with some huge benefits as well as negatives.

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Have you tried recently? It was only a couple months wait on NHS when I did it. I know, "only", but seeing as it had been 32 years at that point it wasn't a major wait. 2 months is good for the NHS and mental health haha. Diagnosis itself once I'd got through the wait took about 2 hours in total across 2 weekly meetings.

Unfortunately the wait lists are highly dependent on where abouts you are in England.

Wait lists are uniformly infinite if you don't get on them.

If you'd rather spend money than time a friend of mine zipped through the entire process inside a week going private

Re: My ADHD founder toolbox

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I have this question which comes up in my mind every time I read about ADHD in tech (here, Twitter, blogs etc), which is really genuine and with no second intentions: my feeling is that ADHD seems over represented in tech, but I don't know if it's because ADHD is more invisible in life outside tech jobs, or because people with AHDH in tech are "louder", or because there is a relationship between ADHD and being good a…

> my feeling is that ADHD seems over represented in tech We are overrepresented in tech, relative to the general population. In the most recent StackOverflow developer survey, respondents self-reported at a rate about double the global average. > but I don't know if it's because ADHD is more invisible in life outside tech jobs You almost certainly know or have met people in other industries with ADHD and didn’t know…

Thank you very much for your answer!

Re: My ADHD founder toolbox

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You are not deficient in stimulants. So using them is not the answer. Instead, look to nutrition. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24321736/

Treatment with stimulants doesn’t treat deficiencies of stimulants. This is immediately obvious with patients who actually benefit from the meds, because they’re generally not stimulated by them. Treatment with many chemicals doesn’t treat deficiencies of those chemicals. In the case of stimulants for ADHD, they help regulate dopamine and norepinephrine intake. In practical terms, results of successful treatment incl…

Medications saved my life as well. That is not the point. The point is do you keep taking them and not look for the nutritional answer to your problem.

If a B6 deficiency cured your ADHD would you still want to take stimulants?

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This is me, too. I grew up in a "Kids just don't want to learn any more, they all just take meds to fix behavior problems" household. I quit my meds when I was about 16/17 failed out of my last year of highschool, went on to become a construction foreman for huge projects managing crews of 30-40. During a layoff in 2009 because there was no construction, I installed linux on a laptop because I borked my OS and didn't…

I'm on the same path. I feel like I will ask for a IR to take around 5PM because I can't switch off after work and it's starting to affect my couple. I can feel the medication starting to wear off around 4PM and get sucked into the time blindness and must work/play rather than spend time with my family. Thanks for your message. Eyes opening

Yeah, the med management thing is tough and you still gotta do a lot of the work yourself.
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