Nerds and Male Privilege

Post by overgryphon » Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 9:03 PM UTC

burgerbrain wrote: post #81

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This is a pretty good starter inventory for what feminists mean when they talk about "male privilege". http://www.amptoons.com/blog/the-male-privilege-checklist/ You may disagree with the analysis behind the list's construction, but I see little if anything on that list that obviously gets crossed off the list by virtue of being a geek. Social justice theorists also talk about different kinds of privileges, so the id…

Hmm, there are a few things on that list that don't seem to ring true, or at least seem to be leaving out large portions of the picture. For example: "41. Assuming I am heterosexual, magazines, billboards, television, movies, pornography, and virtually all of media is filled with images of scantily-clad women intended to appeal to me sexually. Such images of men exist, but are rarer." The last issue of Playboy that I…

Post by neutronicus » Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 9:17 PM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #159

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I don't disagree with your examples, but I do think that men are more common targets for the "creepy / sketchy" nexus of slurs, including the not-particularly sexualized varieties. The same goes for the "loser / choke artist" family, I think.

Oh definitely. But when was the last time having a reputation as a "choke artist" negatively impacted someone at work?

Post by tsotha » Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 9:49 PM UTC

rmc wrote: post #168

tsotha wrote: post #73

What a load of crap. Female comic book characters are scantily clad? You don't say. But let me suggest that has not much to do with "privilege" and everything to do with the fact that teenage boys are hard-wired to appreciate this kind of thing. No, it's not a "social construct" or an effort to keep the oppressed in her place. Where do I sign up for the privilige of having members of the opposite sex fall all over th…

Where do I sign up for the privilige of having members of the opposite sex fall all over themselves doing things for me in order to get my attention? If you're an attractive man, then you can get gay men (esp. older gay men, especially older, ugly, gay men), to do this. If you want people falling all over you, and doing things, there are ways to do that.

Post by wazoox » Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 10:03 PM UTC

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> they are murdered by random people far less often than men, representing only 21% of victims. Murder is an incredibly rare occurrence in most countries and social environments. On the other hand, women are a huge majority among rape victims, and this is not exceptional: 5 to 10% of all women are sexually abused at some point (depends upon the country, again). > Perhaps the focus of all these stupid gender articles…

Murder is an incredibly rare occurrence in most countries and social environments. On the other hand, women are a huge majority among rape victims, and this is not exceptional: 5 to 10% of all women are sexually abused at some point (depends upon the country, again). Rape makes up only 6% of violent crimes, and men are much more commonly the victim of violent crimes than women. In fact, excluding rape, as the severit…

Post by burgerbrain » Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 10:48 PM UTC

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I am very aware. This is exactly why I picked pants for my example.

I don't understand how men wearing dresses works as a comparison to women wearing pants, as there hasn't been an equivalent attempt by men to adopt dresses as everyday attire.