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Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by fbdab103 »

areoform wrote: post #173

I am chalking this up to Russia syndrome. Personality types driven to do great things aren't easily satisfied. Most are perpetually dissatisfied & they need to raise the stakes. They win the war of the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th coalitions. For the first time, they find that things are going fine. All they have to do is nothing. Pull back and consolidate. Maybe refine some things, tinker a bit. But it's not enough. It wi…

Technically, he did secure Moscow.

As an aside, Napolean is not listed on the the Wikipedia page of Pyrrhic victories.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by anonymousab »

saghm wrote: post #321
kibwen wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same energy as the following article on the Twitter layoffs: "Twitter hasn’t responded to requests for comment, likely because its communications staff has been included in the layoffs." https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/04/twitter-faces-a-class-acti...

At this point it just seems like a matter of time before Musk and/or his fan club start trying to change the narrative to him purposely running the company to the ground, and the fact that he wasted billions of dollars doing it somehow is noble.

That's already kinda the direction of his current tweets.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by meheleventyone »

systemvoltage wrote: post #438
7e wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Elon was fired from PayPal. He failed at Boring Company and Neuralink. He faked his educational credentials and was in the country illegally. He failed at Full Self Driving, the Roadster is nowhere to be seen, the Cybertruck is MIA and the Tesla Semi is years late. 95% of predictions he has made has failed to pass. As far as I can tell, he lucked out during the .com boom, then invested in Tesla and almost drove i…

I think this comment is fueling me to go work at Twitter and give a helping hand to some of the work that needs to happen there.

Let us know how it goes!

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by tedunangst »

nemo44x wrote: post #428
edmundsauto wrote: post #404

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I don't intend to be mean, but I think your statement is trivially disprovable: $4.8B annual revenue, even if every advertiser spent $1M annually, that's 4,800 advertisers who all require inside reps. If each rep can handle 100 clients (unlikely; that's less than 1 hour / month attention), they would need 480 inside reps alone just to keep ad agencies happy.

No they don’t all require inside sales reps. Most advertising can be automated. 95% of clients can self serve. They ran this website 12 years ago with the same number of users and like 200 people.

12 years ago twitter had $7 Million in ad revenue.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by drevil-v2 »

lumenwrites wrote: post #296
7e wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Elon was fired from PayPal. He failed at Boring Company and Neuralink. He faked his educational credentials and was in the country illegally. He failed at Full Self Driving, the Roadster is nowhere to be seen, the Cybertruck is MIA and the Tesla Semi is years late. 95% of predictions he has made has failed to pass. As far as I can tell, he lucked out during the .com boom, then invested in Tesla and almost drove i…

Doesn't it get exhausting to jump through so many mental hoops to minimize someone's accomplishments? I don't understand what people get out of this, is it really that painful to admit that some guy has done some pretty cool things with his life? All the effort it takes to research all the negative things about someone could've been spent doing something productive. Being willing to admit that someone did something a…

It makes sense if you decide that Elon is guilty of "wrongthink", at that point for this mob nuance and context out the window and they will burn anyone at the stack. Works the other way, if you are say the right things then your actions don't matter. Say the right incantations and get away with murder/robbery, no one cares.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by [deleted] »

nemothekid wrote: post #34
pschuegr wrote: post #25

I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

> Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. I don't see what it is about the Twitter product that would require going "hardcore". It's a lose-lose situation; I don't think Twitter's problems would be solved by engineering harder; and you will spend 80 hrs/wk where you can end up fired because people aren't as deterministic as cars. It's a comp…

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Post by system16 »

GaylordTuring wrote: post #279
7e wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Elon was fired from PayPal. He failed at Boring Company and Neuralink. He faked his educational credentials and was in the country illegally. He failed at Full Self Driving, the Roadster is nowhere to be seen, the Cybertruck is MIA and the Tesla Semi is years late. 95% of predictions he has made has failed to pass. As far as I can tell, he lucked out during the .com boom, then invested in Tesla and almost drove i…

> He failed at Full Self Driving His time plan might have failed, but that doesn’t mean that full self driving has failed. That’s like if I said: “I’m going to make 10 million dollars by the end of next week”, and then people would call me a failure for only making 5 million in a week. Or do you mean that full self driving actually has failed, not taking into account any time plans? I think the full self driving capa…

That's not really a comparable analogy. More like "Here is this cool feature I'm going to make by the end of the year, pay me $5,000 for it now." and you never actually get it. It's fraud.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by ProAm »

tomlockwood wrote: post #15
davidw wrote: post #14

@dang - maybe let one twitter story through to the home page?

Yeah given paulg's tweets I'm wondering if our free speech absolutist view as a website, actually holds here.

HN is definitely not a free speech zone. It doesn't need to be, and I think they let a lot of legitimate discussions take place, but in no way shape or form is this a free speech discussion forum, it's a business (a I personally think a decently run one, as for moderation is very difficult).

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by fbdab103 »

kibwen wrote: post #250
barbazoo wrote: post #49

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I'm glad he's having fun /s

I hope all the employees whose lives he's glibly and unnecessarily upended while having the audacity to meme about it are having half as much fun!

It has been half a year since this nonsense all began. I hope everyone at the company planned for upheaval and knew there was a (seemingly large) chance they would lose their job.
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