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Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by mikeyouse »

nemo44x wrote: post #428
edmundsauto wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't intend to be mean, but I think your statement is trivially disprovable: $4.8B annual revenue, even if every advertiser spent $1M annually, that's 4,800 advertisers who all require inside reps. If each rep can handle 100 clients (unlikely; that's less than 1 hour / month attention), they would need 480 inside reps alone just to keep ad agencies happy.

No they don’t all require inside sales reps. Most advertising can be automated. 95% of clients can self serve. They ran this website 12 years ago with the same number of users and like 200 people.

It was 1,000 people and 50% fewer users -- and notably, no revenue. If you think they're going to be able to keep any substantial portion of that $4.5b in revenue by telling advertisers to self serve...

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by thundergolfer »

mhoad wrote: post #423
threeseed wrote: post #278

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> He should hire competent people He did. Jason Calcanis and David Sacks will surely save the day.

I have to say it’s weirdly satisfying that the rest of the world can finally wake up to how incredibly shit these two are. Hope this follows them everywhere.

Two of the dumbest people on tech Twitter. One of them, can’t remember which, wrote a ‘Capitalism is the best’ blog post that was something I’d expect my 13yr old self to have come up with. Just riddled with errors and motivated reasoning.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by zuminator »

edmundsauto wrote: post #404
nemo44x wrote: post #290

Twitter needs at most 50 people to keep the lights on. 200 to innovate. We all know this.

I don't intend to be mean, but I think your statement is trivially disprovable: $4.8B annual revenue, even if every advertiser spent $1M annually, that's 4,800 advertisers who all require inside reps. If each rep can handle 100 clients (unlikely; that's less than 1 hour / month attention), they would need 480 inside reps alone just to keep ad agencies happy.

4800/100 = 48, what am I missing?

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by systemvoltage »

lumenwrites wrote: post #296
7e wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Elon was fired from PayPal. He failed at Boring Company and Neuralink. He faked his educational credentials and was in the country illegally. He failed at Full Self Driving, the Roadster is nowhere to be seen, the Cybertruck is MIA and the Tesla Semi is years late. 95% of predictions he has made has failed to pass. As far as I can tell, he lucked out during the .com boom, then invested in Tesla and almost drove i…

Doesn't it get exhausting to jump through so many mental hoops to minimize someone's accomplishments? I don't understand what people get out of this, is it really that painful to admit that some guy has done some pretty cool things with his life? All the effort it takes to research all the negative things about someone could've been spent doing something productive. Being willing to admit that someone did something a…

If it was someone other than Elon, this entire community would be flagging this kind of stuff with a resounding unity.

Everytime, someone comes up with these arguments, I cannot help but to think "Wow, you must be really bent ideologically to come up with this".

We're in a massive ideological warfare and people who perpetuate hate like this needs to be condemned from all sides. It is making a rather normal forum like this into a vile, toxic and unwelcoming place.

I don't know what it is about certain topics here that brings the worst of people.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by 1attice »

1attice wrote: post #422
nickysielicki wrote: post #369

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So not only are they going to find a vulnerability on twitter’s backend that allows them to remotely execute code on the Twitter servers, but then they’re also going to find some vulnerability in the app that is accessible from the previous vulnerability on the backend that allows them to execute arbitrary code on my phone, without pushing any sort of app update to the Apple store, and then they’re going to use that…

I'm more worried about cold path logs. Like, what if Twitter just randomly has the past year's worth of geolocation data on so-and-so, and it happens to be exposed in an SQL query, and that query happens to get run and the results exfiltrated. It depends a lot on what Twitter keeps and for how long, but e.g. consider American soldiers being used to pinpoint nuclear silos, for example. Imagine being able to map where…

Before anyone asks: the cold path is long-term logging and storage, as opposed to the hot path, i.e. real-time telemetry. (Or at least that's what we called them at the last CloudCo I worked at).

Generally, you try to keep PII (personally identifiable information) and other stuff out of the cold path, but the data still has to be somewhere, right? So there's the hot path.

The overall effect is that stuff that is only logged 'on the hot path' gets effectively forgotten after a while, so you don't have to worry about the management and stewardship of that data.

But you could, for example, force a compromised system to log PII (incl GPS coordinates, radiotelemetry, accelerometer) to the cold path and then come back and get it later.

For bonus points, do stego so it looks innocent.

That is one of the scenarios I'm worried is playing out over there. One of many worries, to be honest, but this one just seems like the kind of breach we'd find out about years later, if at all, under the new regime.

Meanwhile, people in this or that far-off place just... disappear.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by tomcam »

thw09j9m wrote: post #138
tomcam wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’ve diagnosed failure after a month? How many puts have you bought at what price? This is the perfect moment to cement your reputation as a stock market expert.

> about: Investor, husband, father. Those weird spelling and syntax errors are thanks to Siri. I try to preserve my arthritic hands for higher value targets than trolling hacker news.

And apparently news-illiterate! I sure got owned… by myself. ahem

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by neurostimulant »

nemo44x wrote: post #428
edmundsauto wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't intend to be mean, but I think your statement is trivially disprovable: $4.8B annual revenue, even if every advertiser spent $1M annually, that's 4,800 advertisers who all require inside reps. If each rep can handle 100 clients (unlikely; that's less than 1 hour / month attention), they would need 480 inside reps alone just to keep ad agencies happy.

No they don’t all require inside sales reps. Most advertising can be automated. 95% of clients can self serve. They ran this website 12 years ago with the same number of users and like 200 people.

Who the heck willing to drop millions without having access to sales rep at all? Even Google, known as the king of self-service, still has account managers for large ads, workspace and gcp customers.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by systemvoltage »

7e wrote: post #228
areoform wrote: post #173

I am chalking this up to Russia syndrome. Personality types driven to do great things aren't easily satisfied. Most are perpetually dissatisfied & they need to raise the stakes. They win the war of the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th coalitions. For the first time, they find that things are going fine. All they have to do is nothing. Pull back and consolidate. Maybe refine some things, tinker a bit. But it's not enough. It wi…

But Elon was fired from PayPal. He failed at Boring Company and Neuralink. He faked his educational credentials and was in the country illegally. He failed at Full Self Driving, the Roadster is nowhere to be seen, the Cybertruck is MIA and the Tesla Semi is years late. 95% of predictions he has made has failed to pass. As far as I can tell, he lucked out during the .com boom, then invested in Tesla and almost drove i…

I think this comment is fueling me to go work at Twitter and give a helping hand to some of the work that needs to happen there.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by mikeyouse »

r721 wrote: post #375

>In addition to the payroll team being gone, Twitter's entire US tax team is gone, I'm told, along with its financial reporting team. Not great. https://twitter.com/HaysKali/status/1593449877094047744

No payroll, tax, compliance, legal, finance? Just needs some crypto sprinkled in and he can run FTX 2.0!

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by neuracnu »

joshstrange wrote: post #415
minimaxir wrote: post #32

Elon's first non-reply tweet since the news broke: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593415171149791232 > How do you make a small fortune in social media? > Start out with a large one.

A top reply [0] that Elon replied to: > Elon, there's a bunch of us in SV who will come up tonight to help on the infra side to keep the site up. > If you need help just ask. As if you could just drive over to the Twitter HQ, grok how all the infrastructure works, and make/provide meaningful contributions/tweaks/upkeep.... tonight That's either a level of delusion that I can't imagine and/or someone who has no idea w…

To be honest, this sounds like bloody red meat to any black or grey hats out there interested in having some infiltration fun. Why not show up at Twitter’s hq with a mouth full of smart sounding engineering babble and a backpack full of spycraft toys?
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