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Re: Ask HN: Would You Work for Elon?

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Post by up2isomorphism » Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 2:52 PM UTC

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #81

Not only should we not work for these people, we should actively take their power from them by organizing and supporting each other as much as possible. It's crazy to me that our profession fights unionization despite repeated, predictable and consistent anti-worker, antisocial, narcissistic, ego driven companies that grind us up and spit us out Giving someone unvested RSUs with no voting rights, in third class stock…

If you don’t want to work for him that’s fine, in fact I don’t think it is a bad idea working for Elon Musk.

But it does not make sense to push your own agenda about unionization, which is the worst thing happened in US private/public sector. Unionization basically kills the key reason why a corporate can make money: free labor market.

Re: Ask HN: Would You Work for Elon?

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Post by aaomidi » Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 9:09 PM UTC

nec4b wrote: post #224

aaomidi wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They wouldn’t have needed so. Being a millionaire is only “powerful” if there are people in poverty. If poverty didn’t exist, then being a millionaire wasn’t actually going to be that big of an increase in life quality. We should seek to cancel out rent seeking behavior. The thing I hate about our economy is the amount of momentum money gives others while actively holding others back. If our economy was truly based a…

>> They wouldn’t have needed so. I guess you have never been to a socialist country?

No because they don’t exist.

Re: Ask HN: Would You Work for Elon?

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Post by nec4b » Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 10:09 PM UTC

aaomidi wrote: post #252

nec4b wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> They wouldn’t have needed so. I guess you have never been to a socialist country?

No because they don’t exist.

Unfortunately there are still a few of countries today. Not so long ago there were dozens of them. Their recent history is fairly well documented. You can read it your self how life there was nothing but a struggle with no chance of success unless you or your family belonged to red nobility.

Re: Ask HN: Would You Work for Elon?

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Post by scoresbysund » Fri, Nov 18, 2022, 4:29 AM UTC

No, not at this point and age in my career, I will let anyone force me to work long hours.

I know from experience that working long hours solves problems in short term only and it only creates more problems at all levels in the long term.

If I was a fresh graduate with a chance to work for him, then perhaps ’Yes’ but then again I will convince my younger self to work for myself instead; start a youtube channel or company just like he did.

Re: Ask HN: Would You Work for Elon?

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Post by poulpy123 » Fri, Nov 18, 2022, 4:48 AM UTC

Would I work for a narcissist asshole ? The question answers itself

Re: Ask HN: Would You Work for Elon?

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Post by aaomidi » Fri, Nov 18, 2022, 6:45 PM UTC

nec4b wrote: post #253

aaomidi wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No because they don’t exist.

Unfortunately there are still a few of countries today. Not so long ago there were dozens of them. Their recent history is fairly well documented. You can read it your self how life there was nothing but a struggle with no chance of success unless you or your family belonged to red nobility.

No, there isn't. Socialism literally requires the lack of a state. There hasn't been a single actual attempt at socialism.

State capitalism != socialism.

Re: Ask HN: Would You Work for Elon?

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Post by nec4b » Sat, Nov 19, 2022, 3:18 PM UTC

aaomidi wrote: post #256

nec4b wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately there are still a few of countries today. Not so long ago there were dozens of them. Their recent history is fairly well documented. You can read it your self how life there was nothing but a struggle with no chance of success unless you or your family belonged to red nobility.

No, there isn't. Socialism literally requires the lack of a state. There hasn't been a single actual attempt at socialism. State capitalism != socialism.

By that logic we don't really have capitalism and there was never true fascism or national socialism. What a weird relativistic world view.

Re: Ask HN: Would You Work for Elon?

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Post by AndrewKemendo » Wed, Nov 30, 2022, 3:48 PM UTC

nec4b wrote: post #257

aaomidi wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, there isn't. Socialism literally requires the lack of a state. There hasn't been a single actual attempt at socialism. State capitalism != socialism.

By that logic we don't really have capitalism and there was never true fascism or national socialism. What a weird relativistic world view.

Nope.

All you need for "Capitalism" is a legal system that will support organizational ownership without requiring employment or labor inputs to the organization