Elon's first non-reply tweet since the news broke: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593415171149791232 > How do you make a small fortune in social media? > Start out with a large one.
Must be fun to truly believe you're a Bond villain.
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#362This is Elon's moment of Enlightenment, like Neo in the Matrix. If Twitter succeeds, he was the One.
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If I'm giving Elon the benefit of the doubt, A. he's intelligent B. He has 20+ years of corporate experience running companies, I would assume that there was some method to this madness. If I had to guess, he came in with the assumption that forces in the company would be hostile to him based on their beliefs. In order to weed those forces out, he engineered some of this madness to shake those people out. Unfortunate…
I'm amazed at how naive some of the people are here. Why not just accept what you're seeing with your own two eyes? Why look for an alternate explanation?
I thought everyone agreed that this was what he was doing though? Deliberately destroying the entire culture of Twitter.
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But Elon was fired from PayPal. He failed at Boring Company and Neuralink. He faked his educational credentials and was in the country illegally. He failed at Full Self Driving, the Roadster is nowhere to be seen, the Cybertruck is MIA and the Tesla Semi is years late. 95% of predictions he has made has failed to pass. As far as I can tell, he lucked out during the .com boom, then invested in Tesla and almost drove i…
That may be true. But the guy also landed rockets from orbit (on ships!). And then flew them again. The implications of having easy access to space to our civilization really cannot be overstated. SpaceX is the real deal, and will probably be worth more than Tesla eventually. Musk clearly isn’t successful in everything he does, but he’s not a failure either.
> the guy also landed rockets from orbit
We all know that he didn’t do that though, right?
At best his skill set includes hiring smart people, raising money, and being a good manager. Which is exactly what you want from a good CEO and nothing to sneeze at.
But people give him way too much credit for Tesla and spacex imo
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#365I was really thinking about this sabbotage thing yesterday. In these large companies, to make changes to a lot of systems, you have to have someone else also sign on to the changes (eg. code review). If your aim is sabotage, you would have to find a like minded saboteur to work with you. In normal times, at most places, this is risky, because most others would not want to assist you, and would likely report you. The…
Why would anyone go and destroy their career by sabotaging an employer? Such person is clearly can't be trusted cause god knows what they do if they think their boss is an asshole. I quit two times not on the best terms with the management and the only "sabotage" was a zero-day notice and a two-week notice. It just never crossed my mind.
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Aside: there is no "technically resigned" here, if they're referring to Musk's loyalty-pledge deadline. Those employees have been terminated -- and are entitled to unemployment and wrongful termination protections.
I wonder if this legally really is the case. Twitter seems to have asked "Do you still want to work here", giving an option to affirm. They didn't say "you have to go", they said "you may go if you do not like the new direction of the company, please tell us which one it is". I'd be rather careful with that, and not just proclaim these people were terminated. I see a rather good chance court could rule very different…
Even if you think they "quit" that's still extremely clear-cut constructive dismissal.
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The legal system still exists though and your changes would need to not be auditable or else you're going to get thrown in jail. And no matter how much you think you're smarter than the average bear, you're probably going to leave traces. And if Musk gets personally pissed off at some bit of particularly bad sabotage he's got enough money to hire some actual expert outside talent to manage the incident and nail your…
"In the chaos of layoffs, firings, and resignations our security team was entirely gutted and as a result my login must have hacked by one of the literal billions of people on the planet with an interest in taking down this company, even if only for the lolz. The proof of our security issues, staffing woes, and public animosity has been extensively documented. Whatever traces of sabotage you may have found cannot rea…
Falls apart immediately when they get a warrant for your text messages and find you bragging to whatever human you have a sexual interest in or whatever.
And in general, all these "I'll just say " arguments on the Internet will nearly always fall apart when you start backtracking under questioning and changing your story and they pressure you with evidence. Everyone always thinks that they're some kind of perfect sociopathic Patrick Bateman or Heath Ledger's Joker in their mind. You/they are not.
If you are relying on that argument, then they certainly have enough to arrest you and charge you, and the safe bet is that you'll crack.
[Also your argument gets much harder to make if they have you logging in with 2FA from an IP address that can be traced to your house or something like that--very hard for someone to fake that no matter how much fucked up chaos is going on inside Twitter]
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#368Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I'm giving Elon the benefit of the doubt, A. he's intelligent B. He has 20+ years of corporate experience running companies, I would assume that there was some method to this madness. If I had to guess, he came in with the assumption that forces in the company would be hostile to him based on their beliefs. In order to weed those forces out, he engineered some of this madness to shake those people out. Unfortunate…
I try to leave the “it looks crazy but it’s all part of the master plan that will eventually be revealed as brilliant” stuff to Qanon.
He has been nothing but transparent about wanting to gut the company. It's just his plainly communicated plan. There is no conspiracy here.
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#369I need everyone to think very carefully about the attack surface, and how long it has been left unprotected, and how long it will be unprotected. Now, I need you to consider the following proposition: that eyeballs are to codebases, dashboards and telemetry as floss is to tooth and gum. Then, I need you to go to your phone and uninstall Twitter. Also, when you do visit it, visit it in Firefox. Use a Firefox Container…
So not only are they going to find a vulnerability on twitter’s backend that allows them to remotely execute code on the Twitter servers, but then they’re also going to find some vulnerability in the app that is accessible from the previous vulnerability on the backend that allows them to execute arbitrary code on my phone, without pushing any sort of app update to the Apple store, and then they’re going to use that vulnerability in the app to deploy some 0day that gets around all the protections in iOS?
I’m terrified!
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#370Maybe too many people decided to not click the 'yes' link in that email yesterday and the doors are being locked to keep people in?
The rumor is something like 75%, which would definitely explain the panic actions. This also means they don't have to specifically cut off badges for laid off people, it gives them time to decide who's actually gone.
Did he actually send such a letter to everyone? That's really a dumb move cause there's no reason for key engineers to stay - they have millions of dollars and will be immediately hired if they want to.