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Are people who still want to argue that Elon isn't destroying Twitter?

If the ads systems still actually work, Twitter could theoretically be pretty profitable without much headcount.

IMO there's no way those profits last more than a quarter until everything breaks. But yeah, maybe it is technically profitable tomorrow.

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But Elon was fired from PayPal. He failed at Boring Company and Neuralink. He faked his educational credentials and was in the country illegally. He failed at Full Self Driving, the Roadster is nowhere to be seen, the Cybertruck is MIA and the Tesla Semi is years late. 95% of predictions he has made has failed to pass. As far as I can tell, he lucked out during the .com boom, then invested in Tesla and almost drove i…

I love how the goalposts keep shifting all the time - "Tesla can never manufacture a mass production car", "Elon cannot run a hardware company", "Electric cars can only sell when subsidized". The truth is Tesla and Elon pushed an entire market forward. Tesla paid back their loans while other car manufacturers didn't. SpaceX was not the first in the launch business - they were in fact the only one who attempted to bre…

> SpaceX saved the tax payers a ton of money by reducing launch costs.

Do the tax payers really need anything launched?

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post #228

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But Elon was fired from PayPal. He failed at Boring Company and Neuralink. He faked his educational credentials and was in the country illegally. He failed at Full Self Driving, the Roadster is nowhere to be seen, the Cybertruck is MIA and the Tesla Semi is years late. 95% of predictions he has made has failed to pass. As far as I can tell, he lucked out during the .com boom, then invested in Tesla and almost drove i…

If you think the CEO of Tesla and Founder, CEO, Chief Engineer of SpaceX is a failure, I'm dying to know: What have you accomplished?

What a bizarre statement. By that logic, someone can't say Trump is a failed president unless they've become president themselves.

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post #228

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But Elon was fired from PayPal. He failed at Boring Company and Neuralink. He faked his educational credentials and was in the country illegally. He failed at Full Self Driving, the Roadster is nowhere to be seen, the Cybertruck is MIA and the Tesla Semi is years late. 95% of predictions he has made has failed to pass. As far as I can tell, he lucked out during the .com boom, then invested in Tesla and almost drove i…

> Elon's MO is burning a ton of cash that his competitors aren't willing to do in order to be first in some space. That doesn't take talent. He's had failures before. But this line seems unfair. He was neither the first person in electric cars (a few notable failures before him) nor in rockets (e.g. Boeing)... but he was able to lead a team that figured out some of the key tech and the business models to make these t…

> Even with a lot of money, this is no small feat.

Unfortunately we will never know how much Musk contributed to any of these companies.

It is in his best interest to act like he was vital but unless you were there, there isn’t any way to know.

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I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

> Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. I don't see what it is about the Twitter product that would require going "hardcore". It's a lose-lose situation; I don't think Twitter's problems would be solved by engineering harder; and you will spend 80 hrs/wk where you can end up fired because people aren't as deterministic as cars. It's a comp…

> I'm not sure what Elon was thinking when he even decided to buy Twitter.

He lives off Twitter. His fame and fortune would not be where it’s without Twitter and he very well knows it. You can label that an emotional connection or even personal. I don’t think he out right planned to buy it. One thing after another, he found himself locked into - buying it.

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The management is worried about internal sabotage? My Twitter friends said Twitter has been having large exodus. CSL(core systems lib?) team, blobstore team, graph platform team, and revenue forecasting team seemed have all quit. I'm not sure how robust and autonomous Twitter's infra is. Hopefully Twitter will continue to function.

I remember getting into Sangria (Scala's GraphQL implementation) for the first time a couple years ago and seeing Twitter devs helping contribute to the lib. Was excited to see Twitter push that envelope. Now sad to see it all go away.

Twitter is one the few Scala shops around, would be sad to lose it.

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The TLS cert expires on December 12.

There is absolutely no way in hell those aren’t autorenewed. I think the answer is “quite a long time” actually. Eventually disk/machine rot in DCs will take over but it can take many months or more

maintaining any reasonably popular web property is a constant battle of striking down spammers, scammers, and hackers. their basic server code might keep running for months, but unless their engineering teams have been doing some truly magical work up until now the quality of the content is going to rapidly degrade if there isn't active intervention to keep the bad actors suppressed.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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> Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. I don't see what it is about the Twitter product that would require going "hardcore". It's a lose-lose situation; I don't think Twitter's problems would be solved by engineering harder; and you will spend 80 hrs/wk where you can end up fired because people aren't as deterministic as cars. It's a comp…

> What's most surprising it seems he has no thesis for the company or how it can be made better or what was so terrible about it. I believe the thesis is he thinks it's possible to duplicate WeChat as a ubiquitous everything-app (news, media, social media, payments, ordering in restaurants, shopping, messaging) in the West. Why someone would believe that, I don't know. I imagine thinking you could also be the owner o…

Isn’t Facebook like 95% of the way there? (Not Meta.. I’m talking about FB specifically).

News. Media - social and otherwise, payment processing, shipping, messaging.

The restaurant ordering thing is about the only box they don’t check.

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> Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. This is a death march - no question about it. The book by Edward Yourdon should be required reading for any who are still at Twitter. One of the things that is in the book had in it that I recall was a four quadrant grid of 'morale' and 'likelihood of success'(?). There are indeed high morale high ch…

I googled the name of this book and for me your post on Reddit about it four years ago (I assume it's you due to the similar username). Guess it hasn't gotten anymore out of date. I'll have to look into a getting a copy.

Assuming its the same post as I found when searching, that's me... https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/9ymkmg/h... you'll also see the same date too. The order itself - https://imgur.com/TkDmLPv

I try to keep the same name/idenity-ish across systems. It was originally a collision of names (three people on the team all had the same first name). One got the short form, one the long form, and the Scoobie Do movie had just come out and for some reason, I got "Shaggy". A bit later, had a coworker who was Japanese and my first name is awkward to say to the Japanese sounds, but "shaggy" is fine - except that it was pronounced as "SHA-gie" which turned out to be much less taken as a user name than the traditional form, so I use it where I can.

That order also had Slack and Peopleware by Tom DeMarco (which I'll also recommend).

These are things that are timeless (though Peopleware is on a 3rd edition).

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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"Twitter hasn’t responded to requests for comment, likely because its communications staff has been included in the layoffs." - TechCrunch

Wasn't the PR department fired a while ago now ?

TheVerge was already reporting on getting no PR access after the team was fired, like one or two weeks ago (damn that feels like a long time in this timeline...)

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