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Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers

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Post by anon50118810 »

hnfong wrote: post #380
JohnBooty wrote: post #379

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TBH my belief is that some FAANG or famous school is a better signal than self-reported experience on a CV Regardless of actual merit, it's definitely true in practice. Just like the old "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" adage, hiring the MIT or FAANG candidate is going to be pretty safe in the eyes of your manager. So my point is that if you proceeded with the assumption that it should be obvious to employers t…

> Are you saying that OP isn't trying hard enough to sell/present themselves? It seemed from their wording "various parts of my portfolio it should be obvious I can deliver high-quality code and complete reasonably complex projects" that they might be assuming his positive qualities are obvious to interviewers. That's all I was trying to say.

You'll just need to accept my self-assessment, or not.

"Desperate" is a funny word. In another comment I compared this to buying milk when you need it. Maybe some people wouldn't call that desperate.

This all highlights the differences between being able to do the job, signaling that you can do the job, and being able to get hired to do the job.

Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers

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Post by avbanks »

toast0 wrote: post #42
avbanks wrote: post #9

If you failed the tech screens why would they be desperate to hire you?

If they were desperate to hire somebody, they'd lower the bar on the tech screens.

Desperate could mean they just hire someone off the street OR when someone meets the minimum bar throw a bunch of money at them.

Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers

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Post by John23832 »

fdschoeneman wrote: post #347
John23832 wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm pretty sure a rational person could speculate that a specific tree was felled by an axe vs a chainsaw depending on what she knows about loggers in a given area from a given culture and during a given time period. It's a question of probability. It's normal and rational and fair to discuss probabilities when speculating. Given that you know nothing about the hiring practices of the OP's company, it's safe to say…

Ad hominem? I don't know if you know this, though you probably don't, but 'ad hominem' is a category of logical fallacy, committed when one argues that one's opponent's argument is wrong because he is, por ejemplo, an asshole or a pedophile or a loser or a dildo. At no point have I argued that your position is logically incorrect because you are an asshole. I've only ever argued that you are incorrect because your lo…

Implying that I’m disqualified from the conversation because I “don’t understand the terms” that I’m using is ad-hominem. It’s being dismissive of the argument because of something you believe to be inherent in me, rather than the subject of the argument.

I think you should learn the usage of terms rather run than me, lol.

Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers

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Post by Salgat »

bluedino wrote: post #81
Salgat wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ML falls into a few broad categories: model design, data preparation, and deployment. Unfortunately if you don't have a PhD, most serious places won't have you doing model design. To add to that, data preparation is very tedious. So the "sexy" part of ML (making the models) is pretty difficult to gain access to.

I don't have a degree, period, so I can't be hired where I work (contractor). But I spend a lot of time fixing Python code written by PhD's. There's a lot of 'glue' work to be done that traditional IT can't really handle and the actual scientists doing the work usually don't know much about.

You'd fall under the deployment category. The "sexy" part of ML, designing the models, is done by the PhDs, then you clean up their code to help make it production ready.
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