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How safe is ayahuasca? Large-scale study explores

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Re: How safe is ayahuasca? Large-scale study explores

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I find it sad that this post was flagged. If it is not found interesting by the community no one would upvote it and it would just fade away. Flagging posts like this one makes hacker news far less interesting.

I’ve been surprised recently by the friction to psychedelics within the community.

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From my own experience, I have done it with and without the purge. It did feel like it accelerated the process, but not so much that it made a difference overall. I have heard people claim that if you don't purge it doesn't count. It's the first thing they ask about another person's experience. That always felt a bit like Stockholm syndrome to me.

Please unflag the grand parent. Even thou I do not agree with what it says, I think it is interesting to have the discussion.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, alcohol is literally poison and the state of being intoxicated is the desirable effect.

But only the state of being intoxicated. No one asks if you binged so much you threw up because otherwise "it didn't count".

Yeah I've definitely had friends and been around people like that in my youth. "Party 'til you Puke!!"

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Bad trips are a real risk with all psychedelics. I don't like the attitude in psychedelic communities that there's "no such thing as a bad trip, only a challenging one".

I had a couple bad trips. It felt like living in hell for a literal eternity. It's almost impossible to describe the agony that the human mind is capable of experiencing. It's absurd how much suffering the human mind can experience.

The main message I got out of those experiences was that everything I learned in hell could have been learned in other, safer, ways.

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Bad trips are a real risk with all psychedelics. I don't like the attitude in psychedelic communities that there's "no such thing as a bad trip, only a challenging one". I had a couple bad trips. It felt like living in hell for a literal eternity. It's almost impossible to describe the agony that the human mind is capable of experiencing. It's absurd how much suffering the human mind can experience. The main message…

I’m sorry you experienced that. Do you feel like it left any lasting effects?

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Bad trips are a real risk with all psychedelics. I don't like the attitude in psychedelic communities that there's "no such thing as a bad trip, only a challenging one". I had a couple bad trips. It felt like living in hell for a literal eternity. It's almost impossible to describe the agony that the human mind is capable of experiencing. It's absurd how much suffering the human mind can experience. The main message…

I’m sorry you experienced that. Do you feel like it left any lasting effects?

It's been almost 3 years, and there's still some remaining effects. Doing a lot better though! Therapy has helped.

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Is chemotherapy Stockholm syndrome? Sometimes the medicine has to be pretty bad to fight off something worse!

What disease is ayahuasca fighting off? And specifically what is the the clinical benefit of the vomit stage?
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