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Jack Welch at General Electric. Granted it wasn't a tech company though.

He took one of the most valuable and enduring companies in American history and destroyed it completely. It no longer exists.

So you're saying it's an apt comparison? Ha.

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George Hotz is interviewing there tomorrow. https://twitter.com/realGeorgeHotz/status/159339146698169139... For a certain kind of engineer, this version of Twitter is far more attractive than the previous one.

I don't think this is serious. Hotz's license plate is FUELON, and he runs comma.ai.

He's definitely serious about it.

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I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

> somebody who takes over the company and accrues so much social debt so quickly What is 'social debt' and how is it (objectively) measured?

My initial interpretation is that social debt is the antithesis of social capital and represents things like burning one's credibility, demonstrating untrustworthiness, losing respect, etc.

Some querying on the Internet shows people discussing social debt as a software engineering concept. In that context, it seems to be parallel to the idea of technical debt but revolves around the quality of the social dynamics of a team rather than the quality of the code.

In any case, it's definitionally not objectively measurable (and I'm not sure why that would be desirable), since it's about people's perceptions and subjective experiences with each other. One can, of course, subjectively measure it.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Not sure if troll or real but… “Twitter terminated my employment this afternoon. I was in charge of controlling Twitter office badge access.

Elon just phoned me to ask if I could return to assist them in regaining access to HQ after they disabled all badges and locked themselves out.”

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jLtFzhv

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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> Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. I don't see what it is about the Twitter product that would require going "hardcore". It's a lose-lose situation; I don't think Twitter's problems would be solved by engineering harder; and you will spend 80 hrs/wk where you can end up fired because people aren't as deterministic as cars. It's a comp…

> I'm not sure what Elon was thinking when he even decided to buy Twitter. The first time? It really looks like it was the result of a disagreement with the Twitter board. They wouldn't accept his advice or help on how to make twitter better after he became a 9.1% shareholder. The offer to buy the company outright might have been more spite than anything else. I think he calmed down and realised what a bad idea his o…

He could have backed out for only $1B--the dumbest and smartest $1B ever spent.

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This will be an interesting experiment in large scale code rot. How long do you think twitter.com will work with the code base frozen?

The TLS cert expires on December 12.

There is absolutely no way in hell those aren’t autorenewed. I think the answer is “quite a long time” actually. Eventually disk/machine rot in DCs will take over but it can take many months or more

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

There is just so much irony all over this, at every level and every side. It’s hilarious. Musk wanted to buy it, then tried to back away. The board tried to prevent the sale, then sued to make it happen. Employees loathed the idea of Musk being their boss, but also wanted his cash for their stock.

And as much good a pubic soapbox platform could have been for society, destroying the company seems to me to be the only appropriate karmic justice for all involved, including society because of what Twitter had become and had been used for politically.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Could this be all part of the plan, though? A way to single out the true believers?

And do what with them? Completely rebuild Twitter in prod? Loyalty has nothing to do with the requirement of being one of the most exceptional programmers in existence.

Punish them for their optimism through overwork and abuse.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Per her most recent tweet: https://twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/status/1593427480051822592?c... "NEW: The designers leading Elon Musk’s Blue verified project are out, along with the lead web engineer. Many Twitter employees who maintained critical infrastructure have resigned. This is going to look like a very different company tomorrow." The snowball has gained too much momentum now. Especially with Thanksgiving coming,…

God I hope it was as many engineers, designers, IT, and general employees as possible that said no. I mean, they get three months severance and get to give one of the biggest adult children in the world a piece of their mind by simply not clicking a button.

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George Hotz is interviewing there tomorrow. https://twitter.com/realGeorgeHotz/status/159339146698169139... For a certain kind of engineer, this version of Twitter is far more attractive than the previous one.

I don't think this is serious. Hotz's license plate is FUELON, and he runs comma.ai.

He left comma didn't he?
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