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Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#51
Twitter isn't going anywhere because of two critical facts: a) attention whores and rage/doom scroll addicts b) Those people can easily find each other and talk to each other.

Mastodon and Activitypub decentralize which means it is a lot harder to proverbialy whore yourself to the attention of the masses and and those attention whores (politicians, journalists,etc... not just celebrities and influencers) can't have the same reach with them or with truth social and other copycats of twitter.

Mastodon should have let server operators flag other servers but not refuse federation with them, letting users decide if they want to avoid content from trash servers but of course user moderarion by server operators is fine. Also, like many ideology-first solutions, it catered to small disconnected communities. It should have created corporation separate from the main project that hosts a public mastodon server that directly competes with other social media (and ffs, it's 2022, no more email for anything!).

On that note, Matrix can replace twitter and a lot more if they weren't chasing seemingly random features. Not just twitter but email also can be replaced by matrix, the api amd federates architecture allows for it.

If I was Kelon (Karen elon), I would compete with tiktok, timing is great with all the talks of banning it. They mercilessly murdered Vine back in the day as they did Periscope. Those are the types of features where you can charge content creators for content types and for advertising in people's timelines. They made those separate products instead of part of the regular twitter experience. Also, be less crass about it and charge for award tokens like reddit instead of upfront cash and high priced awards make it to the top of the reply chain.

I don't blog so let me know what you all think lol.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#52
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah given paulg's tweets I'm wondering if our free speech absolutist view as a website, actually holds here.

Turn showdead in and tell me this website is a “free speech absolutist zone”. I mean, subjectively most of those accounts deserve to be dead, but don’t pretend this is something it isn’t.

Unfortunately, hypocrisy is possible.

One interesting thing I heard recently was this idea that even in communities of the most rusted on free speech absolutists, there's still a recognition that spam and flooding are not acceptable - and the question is, why?

It's totally possible to believe that unrestricted free speech is the best policy and to also not implement that policy.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#53

I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

>Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people.

And for the right financial upside. I completely understand going hardcore at a startup in which you have equity. But hasn't Twitter going private removed a lot of the incentive for employees? What is the upside for a Twitter engineer dedicating themselves to the company? Making one of the richest people on the planet slightly richer?

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#55

Regardless of your feelings about Elon Musk as a person, this kind of behavior is absolutely crazy for the leader of a company. I can't imagine what investors who signed on to do this with him are thinking unless their goal was to simply destroy the company.

I think the goal was to destroy the company. Twitter has become such a cesspool and liability for a lot of important people and governments. Bring in someone like Elon Musk to blow it up in spectacular fashion.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#56

Is there precedent anyone can point to where these sorts of wild dramatic moves under new leadership led to turning a large company around into success?

Wild? Yes, dramatic? No.

Jørgen Vig Knudstorp was tapped to take control of LEGO when its business was on the verge of failing (in such a way that the founding family themselves did not know they were so close to the edge).

Entire departments and ventures were cut.

Guy Roz does a very interesting interview on Wisdom from the Top about it.

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/04/1043122974/lego-jorgen-vig-kn...

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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post #53

I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

>Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. And for the right financial upside. I completely understand going hardcore at a startup in which you have equity. But hasn't Twitter going private removed a lot of the incentive for employees? What is the upside for a Twitter engineer dedicating themselves to the company? Making one of the richest peo…

They could still do RSUs but you’ve got some big creditors who are first in line.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#60
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How will Musk's failure at Twitter affect market confidence in his other ventures?

Not that this is at all significant, but these past few months of Twitter charades have erased any appetite for one day buying a Tesla, or any other Musk owned products. Luckily almost every automaker is coming out with their own EVs in the next couple years, so the market should be pretty competitive(in some ways it already is).
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