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Re: Z-library founders arrested in Argentina

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Post by akira2501 »

woodruffw wrote: post #365
akira2501 wrote: post #360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you believe in small government then you're going to enact policies that accomplish this. Re-branding this as "starve the beast" seems nothing more than a propaganda exercise. Further.. almost every business employing people in a State must be setup with that State's authorities. Is there some reason States can't handle wage theft? Is this naturally a federal problem, or even best solved at that level?

That's not my branding, or a re-branding at all: the first known use of the term was by a Libertarian party member. It's the term of art for this style of financial governance, one that is used somewhat proudly by its disciples. It's a problem for both state governments and the Federal government: wage theft might span from state tax fraud, federal tax fraud, unemployment insurance fraud, federal contract falsificati…

> the first known use of the term was by a Libertarian party member.

In what context were they using it? I know that's what Wikipedia says, but their reference is behind a paywall. From what I can see of it, this is not how this phrase was initially used.

"Starve the Beast" seems to be a specific policy idealism with respect to Proposition 13 and the way tax revenues were being used in certain districts. It does not proscribe a particular administrative style, but rather particular property tax policies.

Re: Z-library founders arrested in Argentina

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Post by mxschumacher »

keewee7 wrote: post #28
adamors wrote: post #18

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As Russian nationals, their choices are rather limited at this time.

No? The countries that don't have extradition agreements with the US overlap a lot with countries that have friendly relations with Russia. China, Cuba, and Russia would be the ideal choices if you're on the run from US authorities.

remind me, what happens to young men in Russia these days?

Re: Z-library founders arrested in Argentina

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Post by [deleted] »

kneebonian wrote: post #359
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #244

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the US does not subsidise other countries, not to the degree that you think anyways. It’s also not a matter of spending more money. The US spends a lot more per capita on healthcare than everyone else, so money is not the issue.

It may not be direct subsidiaries but I'd be willing to wager a pretty penny that there are a lot of European countries that feel comfortable with spending little on defense and aren't worrying about Russia because they know the US has their back. Not to mention keeping Taiwan from being brought under the CCP umbrella, the efforts the US Navy puts into preventing and reducing piracy. In fact most of the world that do…

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Re: Z-library founders arrested in Argentina

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Post by woodruffw »

akira2501 wrote: post #371
woodruffw wrote: post #365

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not my branding, or a re-branding at all: the first known use of the term was by a Libertarian party member. It's the term of art for this style of financial governance, one that is used somewhat proudly by its disciples. It's a problem for both state governments and the Federal government: wage theft might span from state tax fraud, federal tax fraud, unemployment insurance fraud, federal contract falsificati…

> the first known use of the term was by a Libertarian party member. In what context were they using it? I know that's what Wikipedia says, but their reference is behind a paywall. From what I can see of it, this is not how this phrase was initially used. "Starve the Beast" seems to be a specific policy idealism with respect to Proposition 13 and the way tax revenues were being used in certain districts. It does not…

> In what context were they using it? I know that's what Wikipedia says, but their reference is behind a paywall. From what I can see of it, this is not how this phrase was initially used.

Here's another source attesting it to the Reagan administration in 1985[1]. To be clear, it doesn't even make sense for it to have come from the larger-government sphere: why would they refer to the US Government as "the beast"?

I have no idea what Proposition 13 is (although I'm guessing it's a California thing). In the context of US federal politics, "starving the beast" refers to a general "pincer" policy of both reducing funding and minimizing the effectiveness of that funding (e.g. by increasing outflows to contractors and other private services while decreasing oversight over those outflows).

[1]: https://www.independent.org/pdf/tir/tir_12_01_01_bartlett.pd...

Re: Z-library founders arrested in Argentina

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Post by blahblah1234567 »

gustavorg wrote: post #8

I don't want to say in the meantime, but, in the meantime, the pedophile ring that Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell served have not even been cited, ever.

They were employed by intelligence agencies, such as CIA, Mossad, and probably FBI too.

It's not a coincidence that the daughter of James Comey-- former Director of FBI-- Maurene Comey was "a lead prosecutor in Ghislaine Maxwell's child sex trafficking case" [1]

[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/maurene-comey-james-comey-da...

Re: Z-library founders arrested in Argentina

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Post by wewtyflakes »

phpisthebest wrote: post #314
dredmorbius wrote: post #312

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And who was it who loaded that term? The social justice advocates, or their opponents?

Both. Just like many other political labels, they start out as one thing then more and more people start using the labels and soon their orginal meaning is lost and have become something else This is caused by both advocates and opponents of the various causes, positions, and world views

I've got strong opinions and political thoughts on the term "political labels". Sure it once meant labels applied to politics, but now, who knows what it means? Both sides have misconstrued this term and now we shouldn't use it.

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Post by skeletonjelly »

rexreed wrote: post #140
adamors wrote: post #18

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As Russian nationals, their choices are rather limited at this time.

My suggestion to Russian nationals who are engaged in crime: stay in Russia.

Another person made a good point I'll extend on: you'd stay in Russia until you end up dying in Ukraine, viewed by people watching drone footage online

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #21

A small thought experiment: - Book sales in 2021 were about _9_ billion dollars. [0] - Wage theft in the US is estimated at _50_ billion dollars. [1] Can you imagine if the resources of the justice and labour departments would prioritize citizen wage over publishers' revenue? Would you rather have funds allocated towards social justice or have them spent on intimidating foreign nationals completely outside US jurisdi…

"Do not take advantage of a hired worker who is poor and needy, whether that worker is an Israelite or is a foreigner residing in one of your towns. Pay them their wages each day before sunset, because they are poor and are counting on it. Otherwise they may cry to the Lord against you, and you will be guilty of sin." - Deuteronomy 24:1415 (TNIV)

Re: Z-library founders arrested in Argentina

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Post by [deleted] »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #317
jiveturkey wrote: post #304

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Sleep deprivation of just 10 min per night across the entire USA adult population of 330M is 3.3Bn minutes, is over 6 thousand YEARS of sleep related fatigue, etc. PER NIGHT Can you imagine if we attacked that problem in earnest? My point, obviously, is that 50 billion is nothing on a per capita basis. This arrest is very high leverage, and very effective use of resources.

Your argument that this problem is too distributed is valid but a little out of touch. Wage theft disproprionately affects lower income people. There is about 39 million americans below poverty line. That's about 1200 dollars a year. I am sure it would actually make a hell of a big difference to many people below the poverty line.

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